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2.0+ Nightmare Raid Parse rank sheet


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WiththeForc
08.15.2013 , 01:10 AM | #201
8-man Dash'roode
Beastfury - Hatred - Marauder - 5/36/5 - 2456.18
http://www.torparse.com/a/385363/tim...027/0/Overview

8-man Titan 6
Beastfury - Hatred - Marauder - 5/36/5 - 3022.59
http://www.torparse.com/a/385363/5/0/Overview

8-man Thrasher
Beastfury - Hatred - Marauder - 5/36/5 - 2744.92
http://www.torparse.com/a/385363/25/0/Overview

8-man Olok
Beastfury - Hatred - Marauder - 5/36/5 - 2501.02
http://www.torparse.com/a/385363/tim...962/0/Overview
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JDotter
08.15.2013 , 01:39 AM | #202

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mmerry
08.15.2013 , 01:46 AM | #203
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lol too much to drink last night
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fire-breath
08.15.2013 , 01:48 AM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by paowee View Post
In the process of updating the 8-man sheet and... the amount of Gunslingers/Snipers topping the charts of boss fights with a lot of adds (i'm looking at you Writhing Horror and Titan-6) due to LOLbital Strike and Flyby is getting out of hand >_<;

I'm thinking of just putting the top 5 of those classes combined for these bosses so that we can see what other classes are doing.

Anyone think this is a good idea?
Well, obviously I'm not very impartial in this matter. I don't think this is something that needs implementing yet. Yes, Writhing Horror and Titan-6 may be dominated by AoE heavy classes. However ..... other fights will be dominated by single target classes.
Why is AoE-heavy a good thing? It lets the other people focus on other things. In my raidgroup I'm designated to kill the adds alone so that we can have 1 dps on the boss 100% of the time. Effectivly I'm saving the other dps time.

Another note on this is that I know other classes too that can perform very nice. They only lack the flavor of the month benefit. The following, less desired classes should be able to get a nice dps out too:
- Vanguard dps
- Focus sentinels
- Hybrid sages
The only reason why you don't see them in the topparses is because most people are following the herd. Having loads of snipers/slingers increases the chance on having a few good ones.

Furthermore, there are other bossfights which favors some classes too.
Dreadguards: 1 Melee can keep on dps'ing during lightning field, increasing his dps because the rest needs to peeloff and scurry away to safe harbors.
The Terror: During that fight very little movement is required for melee dps. As a sentinel/marauder you basicly keep on bashing the tentacle while ranged classes need to down the incoming adds / dodge spit (not a nessesity ofc) / kill off anomalies. Its safe to say that they have massive advantage in that fight. In this case I see in the top 4 three marauders (8-man).
Operator: Ranged favoritism because most of the times it will be a melee that will channel while a ranged shoots stuff.

TLDR:
Some bosses just favor specific classes. If we limit fights for AoE, you should also think of limiting other things too.

Quote: Originally Posted by fire-breath View Post
Yesterday had another NiM try at TfB. Ashame we are still wiping horribly at the dreadguards. Anyhow, the Writhing Horror kill was quiet nice.

8-man TFB - The Withring Horror -
3937,79 dps - Macewindy - Twin Suns Squadron - Gunslinger - saboteur - 3/36//7
http://www.torparse.com/a/379994/20/0/Overview
Gearprofile: Mostly 72, missing some pieces.
Obviously this may be a bad timing, but can you plz update my dps with this parse Paowee? If you need time to evaluate the log its fine.
Some notes on this parse:
- Our raidleader tried to 'motivate' us by being angry which let to me putting out my frustration on the bossfight
- As I stated above, I'm solo'ing the adds with occassional help of a sage-dps

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paowee
08.15.2013 , 05:07 PM | #205
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I'm noticing some pattern among the highest raid parses and their avg damage hits compared to other less parsing players. It looks like the people we see on the top right now are wearing, AT LEAST 12/14 Kell Dragon Gear. Just putting it out there. I'm pretty sure Invinc Operative, Noodles, et al are mostly in Full KD gear already.

It would be nice to see Jugg / Sin / Sorc raid parses here. I might even put a separate category for these guys just otherwise we will have mostly slingers/snipers/maras on some fights especially those few bosses that spawn adds or bosses that you can stack for AoE (wh, t6, thrasher, DG, CW).

These bosses you can expect madness sorcs, both DPS specs of sins, vengeance juggs, to lag behind. it would be a shame to not get representation from these classes!

Also ran with a hybrid vanguard DPS some few nights ago. i was on my still undergeared slinger and was surprised he was showing up on top of MoX. Hybrid spec'd iirc (16man).
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Qvasar
08.15.2013 , 05:21 PM | #206
Dread Master Styrak (16-man Nightmare)

2355.96 DPS - K'ami - Not Good Enough - Sentinel - Combat 7/36/3
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ssfish
08.15.2013 , 05:22 PM | #207
Quote: Originally Posted by paowee View Post
Updated.
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I'm noticing some pattern among the highest raid parses and their avg damage hits compared to other less parsing players. It looks like the people we see on the top right now are wearing, AT LEAST 12/14 Kell Dragon Gear. Just putting it out there. I'm pretty sure Invinc Operative, Noodles, et al are mostly in Full KD gear already.

It would be nice to see Jugg / Sin / Sorc raid parses here. I might even put a separate category for these guys just otherwise we will have mostly slingers/snipers/maras on some fights especially those few bosses that spawn adds or bosses that you can stack for AoE (wh, t6, thrasher, DG, CW).

These bosses you can expect madness sorcs, both DPS specs of sins, vengeance juggs, to lag behind. it would be a shame to not get representation from these classes!

Also ran with a hybrid vanguard DPS some few nights ago. i was on my still undergeared slinger and was surprised he was showing up on top of MoX. Hybrid spec'd iirc (16man).

It stands to reason that this would be the case. They've got more gear and more time in on the fights to sort out their approach. That said, my Dash parse was in 2 verpine implants (one unaugmented), over-capped accuracy (due to the 2 bad implants), and only 1 piece of 75 gear in my bracers.


As to the rest, don't bother with a separate category, in my opinion. Vengeance Jugg, in particular, can push huge numbers on a fight like T6 if his group setup allows him to do so. It just doesn't happen because they fit a different role better, and there's usually a better suited class to handle adds.

Besides, there are numerous factors that go into these parses beyond class, that if you start making special tracking for the under-appreciated classes, then you might as well start making one for the guy who got doomed three times in a row, choked twice, and had to place 6 red circles.
Lift - Juggernaut Manaca - Sentinel Macana - Sorc
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paowee
08.15.2013 , 05:41 PM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by ssfish View Post

It stands to reason that this would be the case. They've got more gear and more time in on the fights to sort out their approach. That said, my Dash parse was in 2 verpine implants (one unaugmented), over-capped accuracy (due to the 2 bad implants), and only 1 piece of 75 gear in my bracers.


As to the rest, don't bother with a separate category, in my opinion. Vengeance Jugg, in particular, can push huge numbers on a fight like T6 if his group setup allows him to do so. It just doesn't happen because they fit a different role better, and there's usually a better suited class to handle adds.

Besides, there are numerous factors that go into these parses beyond class, that if you start making special tracking for the under-appreciated classes, then you might as well start making one for the guy who got doomed three times in a row, choked twice, and had to place 6 red circles.
That was what i was thinking as well.. If i'm going to make a separate section for the "other" DPS specs.. madness/deception sins, madness sorcs, etc.. may as well do it for all the classes. hmm...

the Top 10 limit is a bit of a "deterrent" for the other specs. If we have 10/10 Slingers/Slingers/Marauders/Sents for 60% of the boss fights... may as well turn this into a NiM Sniper/Marauder leaderboards. Don't get me wrong so far i've only made a limit for Writhing Horror, but if one more boss fight gets flooded by only one spec or one class, then i'll jump in and put a limit to the monopoly >_<;
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ssfish
08.15.2013 , 05:48 PM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by paowee View Post
That was what i was thinking as well.. If i'm going to make a separate section for the "other" DPS specs.. madness/deception sins, madness sorcs, etc.. may as well do it for all the classes. hmm...

the Top 10 limit is a bit of a "deterrent" for the other specs. If we have 10/10 Slingers/Slingers/Marauders/Sents for 60% of the boss fights... may as well turn this into a NiM Sniper/Marauder leaderboards. Don't get me wrong so far i've only made a limit for Writhing Horror, but if one more boss fight gets flooded by only one spec or one class, then i'll jump in and put a limit to the monopoly >_<;
If Sniper wasn't so stupid easy to succeed with, I'd gladly put the Jugg on some of these boards, but circumstances have dictated that the sniper is the better choice for us to catch up with the content. I'm getting a NiM run or two in on the Guardian lately, so I'll see what I can do with him, instead.
Lift - Juggernaut Manaca - Sentinel Macana - Sorc
Bije - Operative Lifting - Guardian Bijje - Sniper

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paowee
08.15.2013 , 06:57 PM | #210
Quote: Originally Posted by ssfish View Post
If Sniper wasn't so stupid easy to succeed with, I'd gladly put the Jugg on some of these boards, but circumstances have dictated that the sniper is the better choice for us to catch up with the content. I'm getting a NiM run or two in on the Guardian lately, so I'll see what I can do with him, instead.
The MM and Full Lethality rotations are, yes you are right, easier to succeed with compared to say Vengeance Juggs. I can't say the same for Engineering though.

While Rage is probably on the same level of "ease" as MM and Lethality. (I played some Jugg DPS back in 1.7)
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