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2.0+ Nightmare Raid Parse rank sheet


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Airwolfe
08.09.2013 , 04:20 AM | #101
Quote: Originally Posted by fire-breath View Post
Rule 7 dictates that the death only may occur AFTER the bosskill, disregarding any adds.
It's a complicated rule, one which I just elaborated much more clearly on what I think is a fair gauge of raid fights. If it sounds hazy, I can go for some rewording.
Airwolfe - Marauder <Chosen>

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Airwolfe
08.09.2013 , 04:40 AM | #102
Quote: Originally Posted by LordKantner View Post
I said in my first post some might not have been (legit), but they were past enrage when I died which was why I was unsure.
Ya, if you can take the time to go through your parses and ensure they comply with the rules, that will make my maintenance of this thread that much easier and that's how I'd like things.
Any questions, clarification requests welcome.
Airwolfe - Marauder <Chosen>

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Airwolfe
08.09.2013 , 04:50 AM | #103
Quote: Originally Posted by LordKantner View Post
Why was I placed lower on Thrasher and Dread Guards when I had more DPS?
Unfortunately I am not an infallible automaton (not always anyway heh).
But wait - I thought I did in fact make a mistake but your parse ended in a death, not a kill, thus it is wholly invalid.
So again, please read the rules and tidy up your parses (in a legit way) before posting.
thx

Will look to catch up with paowee's snazz factor and more neatly format the post#1 in a few days when I get more time
Airwolfe - Marauder <Chosen>

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Airwolfe
08.09.2013 , 04:54 AM | #104
Quote: Originally Posted by Airwolfe View Post
7) No mid-fight deaths (resulting in shortened and thus skewed parse). If you die during the course of the fight and are rezzed, parse is considered invalid (must be full length from start of boss pull to boss death). One caveat to this rule - You may remove the exit/enter combat lines between your death and rez to display a full length fight, and if you die at the end, you may edit log to contain the 'extra space' after your death until boss death (if you do this, bear in mind that a corroborating fight duration parse from a guildmate may be requested - you are to use the full fight duration supplied by your guildmate who survived through boss death). This rule may change, but seems fair enough.
I would like some feedback on this expanded rule.
It's definitely complicated, but I think these edits comply with what I overall think is a 'legit kill parse' - tougher to edit and tougher to validate, but as a DPS I do know that sometimes you will do everything you can and still die within the last 5 seconds of the fight when your guild goes on to kill it.
I think those instances should be considered for a leaderboard (with that extra empty time added at end, reducing your actual dps).
Interested to hear any thoughts on it though. It's certainly much simpler to just say 'no deaths whatsoever' but I do think that could exclude a high number of record parses in NiM.
Airwolfe - Marauder <Chosen>

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mayoonaise
08.09.2013 , 05:05 AM | #105
8-man TTFB

Kephess
Mayoo - Les gardiens d'anachore - Sentinel watchman- 36/8/2 - 3715.24
Log:http://www.torparse.com/a/375592


8-man S&V

Titan 6
Mayoo - Les gardiens d'anachore - Sentinel combat- 5-36-5 2554.75
Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/375607

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Lendish
08.09.2013 , 05:46 AM | #106
8-man
Tianna - Seven Stuck - Sniper - Marksman - 36/3/7

Titan 6 Nightmare 2863.45 DPS

Trasher Nightmare 2424.35 DPS

Cartel Warlords Nightmare 2802.67 DPS
Tianna - Sniper

retired

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diadox
08.09.2013 , 06:32 AM | #107
Haven't killed more than half of the bosses yet, but here are parses of those I have killed (minus Kephess as I can't seem to find a log from that fight; must've accidentally got deleted). Here goes:

Terror From Beyond 8-man:

Writhing Horror
Rhuarc - Titans - Gunslinger - Saboteur - 7/36/3 - 3815
Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/352638/2/0/Damage+Dealt

Dread Guards
Rhuarc - Titans - Gunslinger - Sharpshooter - 36/3/7 - 2914
Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/376389/3/0/Damage+Dealt

Operator IX
Rhuarc - Titans - Gunslinger - Sharpshooter - 36/3/7 - 2324
http://www.torparse.com/a/376384/10/0/Damage+Dealt


Scum & Villainy 8-man:

Dash'roode
Rhuarc - Titans - Gunslinger - Saboteur - 5/36/5 - 3777
Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/376433/1/0/Damage+Dealt

Titan 6
Rhuarc - Titans - Gunslinger - Saboteur - 7/36/3 - 3714
Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/376410/5/0/Damage+Dealt


Anywho, I love the idea of this thread. Don't do much dummy parsing these days other than to test stuff out, but boss parsing is something I always do. So this thread suits me perfectly.
Rhuarc -- Rhu
The Red Eclipse

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fire-breath
08.09.2013 , 06:52 AM | #108
Quote: Originally Posted by Airwolfe View Post
I would like some feedback on this expanded rule.
It's definitely complicated, but I think these edits comply with what I overall think is a 'legit kill parse' - tougher to edit and tougher to validate, but as a DPS I do know that sometimes you will do everything you can and still die within the last 5 seconds of the fight when your guild goes on to kill it.
I think those instances should be considered for a leaderboard (with that extra empty time added at end, reducing your actual dps).
Interested to hear any thoughts on it though. It's certainly much simpler to just say 'no deaths whatsoever' but I do think that could exclude a high number of record parses in NiM.
I think this rule sounds fair indeed. Alltough my experience in downing NiM content is only the 1st boss in TfB I notice that we all tend to die after the kill (twisted spwans and the fouloffspring of the incubated tank). I assume this happens more in the rest of the NiM fights too.

To verify if I understand the new rule. You mean to say that parses are considered valid when you die in the last seconds of the bossfight and the rest of the group manages to kill the boss without you.
To be considered valid you need to extend your parse with the extra seconds that it took the rest to kill the boss. And provide if possible the killtime.
In my case that would mean that this parse of 3607,51 becomes extended with 1 second to account for the I possibly was dead. Which turns into this parse of 3597,91

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Qvasar
08.09.2013 , 08:18 AM | #109
My opinion regarding the "not die" rule:
Raids are a team effort. If the boss is dead it is a successful kill, regardless of an element having died or not. We have fights where some people are literally bait and are prone to die so that other more important elements can survive and this does not diminish their value as a member of the team.

However, I do not agree with submitting parses of wipes, even if the boss is at 1HP. I know sometimes it's damn near impossible to validate if a kill actually happened, but we have to rely on some sort of honor system here.

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Jizones
08.09.2013 , 08:57 AM | #110
Buddy - TK Spec Sage
Old Republic Dads
The Shadowlands
8 Man Writhing Horror NiM
2947 dps
http://www.torparse.com/a/376038
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The Shadowlands
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