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Valor, level and gear

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Valor, level and gear

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Tragamite
07.30.2013 , 08:33 PM | #1
Question to the Devs, why did we lose the old gear models?

Currently Valor does not mean a whole bunch. Once it ment access to PvP gear but those days are gone. Now that gear is not bound by valor why are the shells of Battlemaster and War Hero still dependant on Valor?

Why did we not have PvP progression from the start?

Currently there are 4 sets of "PvP gear" available to the players. Level 20, 40 w/o expertise and level 55 Partisan and Conqueror. Why are there not more variety of PvP gear?

Valor levels are:
  1. Valor Rank 10: Skirmisher
  2. Valor Rank 20: Duelist
  3. Valor Rank 30: Gladiator
  4. Valor Rank 40: Centurion
  5. Valor Rank 50: Champion
  6. Valor Rank 60: Battlemaster
  7. Valor Rank 70: War Hero
  8. Valor Rank 80: Conqueror
  9. Valor Rank 90: Warlord
  10. Valor Rank 100: Elite Warlord

PvP gear should level with characters like the worlds offer.
•Level 10: Recruit
•Level 20: Private
•Level 30: Corporal
•Level 40: Sergeant
•Level 50: Lieutenant
•Level 55: Captain
These sets should be blue non-moddable variety purchasable for credits.

The second rank of gear should be purple moddable but without a set bonus like Black Market vs Campiagn. These are obtained with WZ Comms and Credits
•Level 10: Scrapper (Only includes Chest, Legs, hands and feet)
•Level 20: Deceptive (Does not include Ear, Implants, Relics)
•Level 30: Infiltrator
•Level 40: Vigilant
•Level 50: Elitist
•Level 55: Partisan
The third tier of gear should be solely based on Valor to obtain and should have the set bonus. These are Obtained for RWZ and WZ Comms.
•Valor Rank 10: Skirmisher
•Valor Rank 20: Duelist
•Valor Rank 30: Gladiator
•Valor Rank 40: Centurion
•Valor Rank 50: Champion
•Valor Rank 60: Battlemaster
•Valor Rank 70: War Hero
•Valor Rank 80: Conqueror
•Valor Rank 90: Warlord
•Valor Rank 100: Elite Warlord

Valor could then also dictate where you are matched up in WZs. Like how levels are now it could be Valor 0-30, 0-54, 55-60, 61-80, 81-100.

This would mach Level 10-30 from valor 0-30 with each other, level 31-54 from valor 0-54 and level 55 from valor 0-54, 55-60 on up so you are fighting in your characters “ability” bracket.
Whocsllessur Jugg Tank 55, Etim'a'grt Sorc DPS 55, Ruspe-Rurob PT Tank 55, Tolan'dass Snipe DPS 55, Skęlętor Sin Tank 55 Pesch-rushi Guard Tank 55, Tragamite Scoundrel Heals 55, Slĺughter Van DPS 55, Shę-Rĺ Sage DPS 55

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MarkXXIV
07.30.2013 , 08:52 PM | #2
pvp needs a lot of work in this game. It could be a lot better, these are good ideas.
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stupidsyrup
07.30.2013 , 10:34 PM | #3
But then we would get level 12's crying because a level 55 with Valor 22 in Purple 54's smeared them.
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Carnaje
07.30.2013 , 10:47 PM | #4
The ****ed up bolster so they would not have to deal with recruit gear and people ************. That was a 3 gear end game system. That gear is still in the game and nerfing people that just started playing again because there is no way for the returning player to understand the 7 and counting hot fixes to bolster. There is no way they can make that work.

Good idea. I wish they game had more to pvp.

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Tragamite
07.30.2013 , 10:48 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by stupidsyrup View Post
But then we would get level 12's crying because a level 55 with Valor 22 in Purple 54's smeared them.
Not so, the brackets would remain the same just with the tweeks with adding the valor ranking system. Besides the 12s would have access to their own PvP gear.
Whocsllessur Jugg Tank 55, Etim'a'grt Sorc DPS 55, Ruspe-Rurob PT Tank 55, Tolan'dass Snipe DPS 55, Skęlętor Sin Tank 55 Pesch-rushi Guard Tank 55, Tragamite Scoundrel Heals 55, Slĺughter Van DPS 55, Shę-Rĺ Sage DPS 55

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Eruhilde
02.05.2014 , 05:45 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by stupidsyrup View Post
But then we would get level 12's crying because a level 55 with Valor 22 in Purple 54's smeared them.
LOL Rank 12's will get smeared by a 55 anyway... they may cry because the 55 ganked them or was camping the spawn but that's a whole different story.

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AlrikFassbauer
02.06.2014 , 06:16 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Tragamite View Post
Once it ment access to PvP gear but those days are gone. Now that gear is not bound by valor why are the shells of Battlemaster and War Hero still dependant on Valor?
Good question.

I have asked this myself several times already.
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laughingbuddha
02.20.2014 , 07:58 AM | #8
Make all the gear moddable, though. There more moddable sets in the game with different graphics, the better.