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TUXs
07.17.2013 , 09:48 AM | #231
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
I've been flamed (as have others) numerous times in this thread for doing nothing other then expressing a wait and see approach on 2.4 and taking the time to look at what was communicated from a more neutral stance.

And I'm fine with people expressing their disappointments, and frustrations, and even venting about it. Just not on the backs of other players who have a different outlook on the limited information disclosed to us yesterday.

Hate the game, not other forum members. Vent on the game, not other forum members. [I'm not directing this comment specifically at you.. but at the venomous attacking going on by some in this thread].
I can't speak for every reply - only my own.

The reason I comment on those replies is because the old "wait and see" tactic DOES NOT WORK with this game (PvP in particular). I'm 100% convinced that Bioware absolutely has no clue about what their PvPers would like. They've demonstrated it time and again with this game (remember the return to Ilum?).

Normally, I'd agree with that tactic...but PvP is one thing Bioware can't seem to grasp. Being VOCAL is a must! Silence is no longer an option...It's almost like when Bioware reaches that PvP fork in the road and they're presented with a choice of left or right, they'll choose to go backwards.
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BadOrb
07.17.2013 , 10:00 AM | #232
Quote: Originally Posted by Smuglebunny View Post
They didn't tell anyone about Treek cuz he is non - canon blasphemy that makes no sense regardless of their stupid explanation. Just wanted to put an Ewok in the game for girls and children.

The primary focus of the PVP update is again PVE. The games done for me, Ill never see that update anywhoo.
Well during ( at the end of ) the hyperspace war the remaining Sith , did a series of random jumps and ended up in the middle of nowhere , losing sight and contact with their old planets. So in theory BioWare can place any planet or species from any SW era within this game. Endor existed way before Return of the Jedi. Hell they may have even visited it before the hyperspace war. The game and Lore are made very open ended this way.

I still would like an answer to my question , Will the new tier of elder gear have Mk-10 augmentation abilities ?

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Joesixxpack
07.17.2013 , 10:26 AM | #233
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
He was expressing his opinion. Just like you are doing right now.

You have no right to tell him what to do either. See the irony there. Or perhaps.. you both were just expressing your opinions, and doing it badly.

Basically right now, anyone that in any way disagrees with the venom in this thread.. gets flamed for it. What wonderful role models.
Haha! Usually you don't start getting into the martyr bit this early. Understandable though, this is a hot topic and there are still plenty of other posts to try to pick up by the tail.
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07.17.2013 , 10:30 AM | #234
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
I can't speak for every reply - only my own.

The reason I comment on those replies is because the old "wait and see" tactic DOES NOT WORK with this game (PvP in particular). I'm 100% convinced that Bioware absolutely has no clue about what their PvPers would like. They've demonstrated it time and again with this game (remember the return to Ilum?).

Normally, I'd agree with that tactic...but PvP is one thing Bioware can't seem to grasp. Being VOCAL is a must! Silence is no longer an option...It's almost like when Bioware reaches that PvP fork in the road and they're presented with a choice of left or right, they'll choose to go backwards.
^ This.

BW takes the fireman approach. Only natural for comm. members to do what fits with that, big red flames. Experientially the issue threads that keep it short and wait to see get little to no attention, so why do what doesn't work?
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mastirkal
07.17.2013 , 10:37 AM | #235
They needed to get another operation in the game. It seems they are giving pve players two. The last endgame content they gave us will be 6 months old when this update comes out. Bioware is *********** up on delivering content and are mashing together patches to meet deadlines. It's sad to see the miracle pvp patch turn into a half way patch, but that's the nature of the game.

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Sameria
07.17.2013 , 10:52 AM | #236
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Hey guys,
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-eric
Any new news on QoL improvements, such as legacy banks or multi-spec?
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MisterBlackJack
07.17.2013 , 10:56 AM | #237
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Don't tell us what to do - you're free to keep your mouth shut if you like. The update isn't until freaking October - between now and then, I URGE Bioware to hire an intern to reskin every one of the existing WZ's so that we have double the number come 2.4.

And your silly assumption that there's some magical bunny that's going to appear is foolish. There is NO MORE! These are the HIGHLIGHTS! Do you understand what a highlight is in this context? Everything else will be worthless fluff. I bet there's even a big ol CM update with 2.4 that wasn't mentioned.

If we don't let Bioware know full flipping well what we think of this pathetic patch now, we only have ourselves to blame when nothing changes.

So please...heed your own advice and sit quietly by.
You Mad Bro?

Seriously no need to overreact or be rude. This is still a discussion thread. Like you, I and everyone else here has an opinion.

You say this is it. Yet you have yet made a case against my points. Bioware has a history of not showing everything in these updates. The companion Treek and the role-nuetral flashpoints are few of them. I am not saying make your voice heard that you want more. But don't also assume this is it when clearly Both the OP Blog and Eric Musco have stated that this isn't it. You just look stupid
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Joesixxpack
07.17.2013 , 11:18 AM | #238
Quote: Originally Posted by MisterBlackJack View Post
Unlike you, i never told anybody to shut up.
Where'd he say that
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Macabrae
07.17.2013 , 11:27 AM | #239
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Hey guys,

I am getting that some of you are frustrated that there are also Operations coming in 2.4 as a PvP player. This is in no way taking away from the content you are getting. It just means that on top of being an update with PvP content, it also has PvE content in it as well. It is just a bigger update for everyone!

To specifically address some of the concerns I am seeing in the thread. First, the 4v4 Warzone Arenas are not scaled down versions of the current 8v8 maps. They are a brand new Warzone type (deathmatch) on their own brand new maps! Note: Plural! You will see more than one map at launch.

As some have said, this is not the only thing coming in 2.4. We have stated before in this thread the purpose of this is to give you an overview, it does not have every detail. Some of your other concerns...such as queuing for Ranked, will be addressed along with 2.4. We are still working on details and 2.4 is still a ways off. We will continue to release information as we lock things in.

I want to add on a personal note that one of the things I have enjoyed most over the past month or two at work is our twice a week Warzone Arena playtests. I am someone who primarily PvPs when I play SWTOR and they are so, so much fun. I cannot wait for you guys to get your hands on them!

-eric
Please tell me that we will be able to do 2v2 and 3v3 too. If the only update for PVP will be a 4v4 and a new war zone without being able to do 2v2 or 3v3 that will be VERY disappointing for pvpers.
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Maluvius
07.17.2013 , 11:43 AM | #240
Well, I for one am mainly a Pve'er, so this patch looks quite awesome. Have only been playing for 2 +- months, but the way PVE is handles is pretty slick. Like all the operations thus far, and can't wait for the next 2 Operations. PVP arena's seems pretty cool, hope for the sake of the PVP people they will work out something nice. Its always better to have both the groups satisfied. But I geuss, this being an MMO, it is hard to please everyone.