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Primarch_PWnD
07.16.2013 , 04:59 PM | #141
Quote: Originally Posted by Yndras View Post
Hang on buddy, we KNOW only what you are complaining about. Im a PvPer and im looking forward to it, so dont presume ALL pvpers agree with your point of view. Arena's are something I as a pvper have wanted since launch.

Now you may be upset at the over view only having two bullet points for PVP, but you need to start using the reading comprehension skills you should have learnt at school and understand that "THE LIST IS NOT EXHAUSTIVE" as Eric has already stated.

Personally, if Eric says its great, and he is excited about it, i take his word for it. I have no reason not to.
You talk about reading comprehension, but I never mentioned anything about the ratio of PvP to PvE content......
You accuse me of presumption, and go ahead with your own.

Again, the problem isn't the ratio of PvP to PvE, it's what they're doing, or not doing, for PvP.

This is a Star WARS MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER game, yet we don't have any "wars" and the engine can't handle anything "massively multiplayer". They keep telling us they're going to fix this, and the last time they did we wound up with today's "update".

So don't lecture me about reading comprehension if you didn't bother to read my post.

Also, as to your trust thing, remember the Banana Sage? Just before they revealed that set of gear, they told us we were going to "love it!". Yet they were forced to change it within 3-days of revealing it on the PTS because of the backlash.....yeah, we "loved it!" alright. It's habitual, like they can't think of any other way to describe things than, "I love it!"

Seriously, where has YOUR reading comprehension been all year if you still trust all the "I love its!"
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07.16.2013 , 04:59 PM | #142
Quote: Originally Posted by Yndras View Post
What do you know what the pvp sub wants? My PVP sub wants this very much, so you just stop talking on behalf of me please.
Go to the PVP forums. Count how many threads are there asking for arena's and get back at me. Arenas are great and all, but for a patch billed as the savior to PVP all year long, this is a resounding disappointment. Don't believe me? Go read this entire thread. I'm sure arena's will be fun, but it's very underwhelming. I was expecting a ton of PVP content, instead I get arena's i'll likely never do but a couple of times and a bunch of patch notes about PVE content. The PVE content for the PVP patch is larger than the PVP, ffs! BW is dropping the ball here with 2.4 if Arena's and another gear grind are all they are bringing to the table for pvp.
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07.16.2013 , 05:02 PM | #143
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
As some have said, this is not the only thing coming in 2.4. We have stated before in this thread the purpose of this is to give you an overview, it does not have every detail. Some of your other concerns...such as queuing for Ranked, will be addressed along with 2.4. We are still working on details and 2.4 is still a ways off. We will continue to release information as we lock things in.
I suggest you release more information about the MAJOR PvP stuff then. A few arenas aren't what was being asked for, especially since they're limited to 4v4. Maybe you can toss out a few other "details" to quell the frustration?
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ScruffyWhite
07.16.2013 , 05:04 PM | #144
More gear grinding? Eugh why can't we just have 3 seperate tiers and just stick with them ffs....and having what bioware have hyped up to be a "pvp patch" to a half pve and half pvp patch when we've gotten **** for the last what more than half a year?
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TUXs
07.16.2013 , 05:06 PM | #145
Quote: Originally Posted by chuixupu View Post
You don't find 4v4 arenas even remotely interesting?
As an additional activity, sure...but smaller scale PvP is NOT what I want. This is an MMO - why the hell would they promote smaller and smaller scale crap? They'll be great fillers, but more WZ's, since that seems to be the ONLY option we have with the current engine, are what is needed...variety! We need more freaking maps.
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07.16.2013 , 05:08 PM | #146
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
I suggest you release more information about the MAJOR PvP stuff then. A few arenas aren't what was being asked for, especially since they're limited to 4v4. Maybe you can toss out a few other "details" to quell the frustration?
Well he can make poison or adrenals with Quell , I'm pretty sure he won't give us either , well I'm not sure .

On a serious note though I think he already stayed at work a bit late and typed a few paragraphs post , giving us more information. Thank you eric.

Cheers,

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Tmanarl
07.16.2013 , 05:14 PM | #147
Quote: Originally Posted by Stubacca View Post
Wrong. They have stated again and again that they'd like to do them and that they were coming (soon), although they have been silent on the topic since they last said they wanted to implement them, which was in January and March of this year. We'd just like to finally get a target date/patch. Many including myself have cancelled my subscription because we still lack chat bubbles or any target date. If they finally gave us a patch number they targeted chat bubbles for and it isn't too far off so we can have something to look forward for, I and many others might just hang in there and renew my subscription when it expires to further fund the development of chat bubbles.
No. This is incorrect. They had chat bubbles in Beta for several patches, but ultimately got rid of them due to the immense strain on system performance. There is no "fix" in the works as the engine the game is built on can't handle the stress. It's not gonna happen. End of story. So you and Glzmo might as well find some other defeated topic to champion because this chapter is closed. Sorry.
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07.16.2013 , 05:19 PM | #148
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Hey guys,

I am getting that some of you are frustrated that there are also Operations coming in 2.4 as a PvP player. This is in no way taking away from the content you are getting. It just means that on top of being an update with PvP content, it also has PvE content in it as well. It is just a bigger update for everyone!

To specifically address some of the concerns I am seeing in the thread. First, the 4v4 Warzone Arenas are not scaled down versions of the current 8v8 maps. They are a brand new Warzone type (deathmatch) on their own brand new maps! Note: Plural! You will see more than one map at launch.

As some have said, this is not the only thing coming in 2.4. We have stated before in this thread the purpose of this is to give you an overview, it does not have every detail. Some of your other concerns...such as queuing for Ranked, will be addressed along with 2.4. We are still working on details and 2.4 is still a ways off. We will continue to release information as we lock things in.

1 for you guys to get your hands on them!

-eric
And by plural, you mean two, correct?



Eric, BW's overall PR is utterly terrible. We need way more than stuff like, "It's going to be awesome!", or anything related (like what you just said in your last paragraph). I know October won't be here soon™, rather just soon, but still... this update makes 2.4 sound not very promising.

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Felixvilla
07.16.2013 , 05:24 PM | #149
WOW nice BIG PvP Patch

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cashogy_reborn
07.16.2013 , 05:31 PM | #150
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Hey guys,

I am getting that some of you are frustrated that there are also Operations coming in 2.4 as a PvP player. This is in no way taking away from the content you are getting. It just means that on top of being an update with PvP content, it also has PvE content in it as well. It is just a bigger update for everyone!

To specifically address some of the concerns I am seeing in the thread. First, the 4v4 Warzone Arenas are not scaled down versions of the current 8v8 maps. They are a brand new Warzone type (deathmatch) on their own brand new maps! Note: Plural! You will see more than one map at launch.

As some have said, this is not the only thing coming in 2.4. We have stated before in this thread the purpose of this is to give you an overview, it does not have every detail. Some of your other concerns...such as queuing for Ranked, will be addressed along with 2.4. We are still working on details and 2.4 is still a ways off. We will continue to release information as we lock things in.

I want to add on a personal note that one of the things I have enjoyed most over the past month or two at work is our twice a week Warzone Arena playtests. I am someone who primarily PvPs when I play SWTOR and they are so, so much fun. I cannot wait for you guys to get your hands on them!

-eric
thanks for the reassurance eric
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