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BUBBUH

07.31.2013 , 08:07 PM \| #421	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by hadoken I think you quoted the wrong person because your reply makes absolutely no sense in the context of my post. "You can convert cash into cartel coins" - you "Converting cash is much more of a hassle than asking mommy for a sub" Which is the whole point of the glorified demo. - me Than i made a pretty brilliant analogy that you don't understand because you haven't hit like..7th grade? Go read it again and please, make an argument instead of "i dun und3rstan"
GTN Master.

Propane

07.31.2013 , 08:07 PM \| #422	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by chuixupu There you go making up numbers again. They keep getting more and more ridiculous. And here you go again trying to deny the truth. The game is thought to cost a 500-600 million budget. Tell me where that all went to, seeing how maintaining a servers cost only around 300k every 2 years.

hadoken

07.31.2013 , 08:09 PM \| #423	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by BUBBUH "You can convert cash into cartel coins" - you "Converting cash is much more of a hassle than asking mommy for a sub" Which is the whole point of the glorified demo. - me Than i made a pretty brilliant analogy that you don't understand because you haven't hit like..7th grade? Go read it again and please, make an argument instead of "i dun und3rstan" We were talking about GW2, not SWTOR. Stay with the topic changes if you're trying to contribute.

chuixupu

07.31.2013 , 08:10 PM \| #424	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by BUBBUH Free gw2 players are non existent. They go to the website, check out gameplay and make a decision from there. Of course they are non-existant, because you have to pay $60 to play the game. Quote: Here its a big tease "Want to customize your character? 5 dollars please!" "Want to pvp more than 3 times a week? 5 more dollars please!" "Want to be able to RUN?! 5 more dollars please!" A knife goes into your wallet every 30 seconds you play. Better to just cut off players then tease them incessantly. Or you just pay a sub like any other game with a subscription and avoid being teased. I've played subscription MMORPGs for a decade, I'm used to it. SWTOR isn't alone in that type of model either, there's quite a few of them that do that.
Wardens of Fate / Alea Iacta Est The Tarkus Legacy ~ The Harbinger/Jedi Covenant

Propane

07.31.2013 , 08:10 PM \| #425	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by hadoken While I agree playing this game for free as an MMO is an exercise in sadomasochism what makes this game different is the cinematic story questing - which they do actually give you entirely for free. So if you want to play what makes TOR different from other MMOs, you actually get all that for free. It's just the MMO features they make you pay for. The story quests in SWTOR cannot keep a player going, it boils down to the decisions you make only changing 1-2 lines of text. If people wanted to play a single player story line, they can go play KOTOR. But people came here to play a Bioware Star Wars MMO. But with the free to play restrictions - they are down to having to demo the MMO parts of the game, as in PVP, Raids, Flashpoints, High level gear, ect.

Propane

07.31.2013 , 08:12 PM \| #426	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by chuixupu SWTOR isn't alone in that type of model either, there's quite a few of them that do that. Name one in the next min without using Google for once.

BUBBUH

07.31.2013 , 08:13 PM \| #427	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by chuixupu Of course they are non-existant, because you have to pay $60 to play the game. Or you just pay a sub like any other game with a subscription and avoid being teased. I've played subscription MMORPGs for a decade, I'm used to it. SWTOR isn't alone in that type of model either, there's quite a few of them that do that. Decade is 10 years long, you can't be 13 and get away with calling that out. And you would blow 15$ for a Wow ripoff? Sorry for questioning your decade long experience in mmos, but i'll tell you your wasting money on a sinking ship.
GTN Master.

hadoken

07.31.2013 , 08:13 PM \| #428	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Propane The story quests in SWTOR cannot keep a player going, it boils down to the decisions you make only changing 1-2 lines of text. If people wanted to play a single player story line, they can go play KOTOR. But people came here to play a Bioware Star Wars MMO. But with the free to play restrictions - they are down to having to demo the MMO parts of the game, as in PVP, Raids, Flashpoints, ect. Why should free players get everything that sub players get? I don't understand your point here, you want EA to just give the game away?

Propane

07.31.2013 , 08:15 PM \| #429	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by hadoken Why should free players get everything that sub players get? I don't understand your point here, you want EA to just give the game away? The point is, why is SWTOR so special in this "Free to Play" model? Why don't all the Pay to Win MMOs that went free use this exact same model? The answer is because EA wants to squeeze every last bit of money they can out of you.

BUBBUH

07.31.2013 , 08:15 PM \| #430	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by hadoken We were talking about GW2, not SWTOR. Stay with the topic changes if you're trying to contribute. this mmo im playing has a cool looking armor. Better keep up with my topic changes.
GTN Master.

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