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BUBBUH

07.24.2013 , 05:09 AM \| #261	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Never_Hesitate You know that all server merges were pre f2p, so there goes that argument Yeah, they went "Glorified Demo" pretty much a month after the server merges because they realized all about 5 people were playing them. They're merging again though, which is a pretty awful sign. No no releases, "F2P", Middle of the summer so the biggest MMO Market is obviously huge now, and they are still planning on making merges? If SWTOR's plan was to die a slow death after being murdered by EA, Project success!
GTN Master.

LordArtemis

07.24.2013 , 05:09 AM \| #262	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Never_Hesitate Learn to read, my question wasn't "how" it was "why" As in why should I invest any more time in this thread? Why should anyone. Folks seem more interested in bickering than actual discussion.
O> My latest game suggestions...what would I change if I could? O> New end game raid suggestion...Tomb of Lords O> My suggestions to adjust the level sync system..... O> Links to my other game suggestions

Propane

07.24.2013 , 05:10 AM \| #263	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Never_Hesitate Learn to read, my question wasn't "how" it was "why" As in why should I invest any more time in this thread? Because you asked for free MMO's with open forums (which is all of them) and now that I gave it to you, you are trying to beat around that bush.

Propane

07.24.2013 , 05:11 AM \| #264	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by BUBBUH If SWTOR's plan was to die a slow death after being murdered by EA, Project success! ^ yes

AlanHasell

07.24.2013 , 05:13 AM \| #265	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Propane Okay search in that new device called "Google" F2P mmo's. Every one of their forums are open to the public. Do you want to know why? They want feedback from their players. EA on this hand just wants to continue their cash cow and they are gunna ignore everything else. You must have missed this one: http://co.perfectworld.com/freetoplay The 'limited access' to forums mentioned there means they have a special forum just for F2P players and some limited access to one or two others. No quite the situation that applies here but there are plenty of complaints about it. And yes, I was a subscriber for a time. Come to that, take a look at the restrictions on F2P players. Not quite as draconian as SWTOR but pretty close in terms of impact on gameplay experience.

Never_Hesitate

07.24.2013 , 05:14 AM \| #266	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by BUBBUH Yeah, they went "Glorified Demo" pretty much a month after the server merges because they realized all about 5 people were playing them. They're merging again though, which is a pretty awful sign. No no releases, "F2P", Middle of the summer so the biggest MMO Market is obviously huge now, and they are still planning on making merges? If SWTOR's plan was to die a slow death after being murdered by EA, Project success! With the merges do you mean the asian/pacific servers? Quote: Originally Posted by Propane Do you want to know why? They want feedback from their players. EA on this hand just wants to continue their cash cow and they are gunna ignore everything else. The best thing you can do to show them that they can no longer do this with you, is unsubscribing and never playing another EA game again until they changed their direction
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Propane

07.24.2013 , 05:15 AM \| #267	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by AlanHasell You must have missed this one: http://co.perfectworld.com/freetoplay The 'limited access' to forums mentioned there means they have a special forum just for F2P players and some limited access to one or two others. No quite the situation that applies here but there are plenty of complaints about it. And yes, I was a subscriber for a time. Come to that, take a look at the restrictions on F2P players. Not quite as draconian as SWTOR but pretty close in terms of impact on gameplay experience. They can still post. But here: CO didn't leave out the parts in a MMO that make a MMO a MMO like swtor did in their f2p model.

GuruVII

07.24.2013 , 06:02 AM \| #268	Quote
Pretty certain that Bioware doesn't prevent players from entering their factions respective hubs (Rep/Imp fleets), which is what makes a MMO a MMO. Grouping up with different people, killing harder mobs for better loot, that isn't the sole domain of MMOs.

AlanHasell

07.24.2013 , 07:45 AM \| #269	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Propane They can still post. But only in a 'ghetto' which makes their opinions easy to ignore. Which was your point, was it not? Quote: Originally Posted by Propane But here: CO didn't leave out the parts in a MMO that make a MMO a MMO like swtor did in their f2p model. F2P players in SWTOR have access to core MMO play. Limited access, but access nonetheless. And I already stated that the restrictions in CO were less draconian than in SWTOR. Personally I think that BW could ease back on the F2P restrictions a little without cheapening the Sub option. But that isn't the same as calling the current model P2W or anything close.

Amaranth

07.24.2013 , 08:03 AM \| #270	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by AlanHasell Personally I think that BW could ease back on the F2P restrictions a little without cheapening the Sub option. But that isn't the same as calling the current model P2W or anything close. I agree. There is definitely a discussion to be had about whether people feel that the F2P restrictions are too strong, though it's hard to make a good case to change it as long as people are paying. But I wouldn't classify it as P2W personally.

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