Pay to Win

Oh no, you silly!

This game isn't Pay to Win

It's Pay to B%$&h on the forums! 24 freakin' 7!!

http://www.riftgame.com/en/store/#patron

$15 a month for "patron" status. Looks like a subscription to me.

Okay, so the reason TOR is P2W is only because of the armor restriction now?

Then the business itself evolves until every company is like EA. Mass effect having a good ending? lol nope. Call of duty needs innovation? lol nope. Just a few months ago i watched four of my favorite IP's die in front of me, Halo, GoW, Borderlands, and AC. I have 0 reason to buy a console now.

And finally its partly the reason why the Xbox One came to fruition. Because casuals bought the Wii during its hype, it was a flash in the pan, lucky success and every console tried to copy it afterwards, failing.

So continue buying up fast food gaming. Watch day one dlc's and pay to win become the norm. (As if its not already right now).

That alone is pay to win. PAYING to be able to USE THE BEST ARMOR in the game.

You can't argue with anyone here, people always gunna find something to make sure their 100% flawless EA system stays in place.

Your opinion is noted. I dismissed it as exaggerated hyperbole. Because, IMO, that is exactly what it is.

I do get that you do not like casuals. Unfortunately they dominate the market. It is a simple fact of life.

...and 100 points for exaggeration factor. You guys are funny. Especially if I'm getting classified as a fanboi or apologist.

It's also not this game.

Nobody thinks EA is flawless, or this game is flawless, they just don't agree with your arguement that it's pay to win, which it isn't.

You keep ignoring people's arguements to call them EA fanboy's, which shows you can't frame an arguement, let alone execute said arguement successfully.

http://www.swtor.com/free/features

Scroll down to item equipping and highlight over the free to play bubble. Isn't that hard to read.

"Cannot equip most purple items unless an authorization is purchased in CARTEL store."

So basically if you didn't under stand that. You gotta pay to be able to use the best armors in the game.


At higher levels, you need these purple items with expertise to be able to do some sort of help in PvP. If you don't you will be loosing.



But because this is a glorified demo, the real parts that make up a MMO - PvP, Raids, Operations, - are limited to a number so they won't really be needing them will they?

Purple equip is not important whilst leveling, is it?
When you really want to play the endgame you have to pay (for example with weekly passes) to do ops, unlimited wz's/fp's.
So you're telling me, that to only be able to wear equip, from content you can't really play, without paying is p2w?

Not true anylonger with bolster (if you don't pay for anything you will stay in the 30-54 bracket and there you can't even buy gear with expertise)

Just because you keep telling yourself "it is a demo" doesn't make it true.
The story is a very real part of a story heavy mmo, even if you don't want to acknowledge that and a lot of people play the game for it's story