Pay to Win

You can earn CCs in this game now on some of the achievements. It's more limited then LoTRO, but that's probably a short term artifact of this games position in the life cycle, IMO.

I do agree with BMM that LoTRO premium is a bit better then SWTOR.. but that's a timing in the MMO-lifecyle effect IMO. LoTRO has had years to polish and adjust the model. The ability to buy expansions with shop currency is a real perk for subscribers in LoTRO (since anyone with a lifetime sub is sitting on a lot of Turbine points typically).. but I figure SWTOR will get there as well at some point.

An MMO is what you the player get out of it, no more, no less.

Agreed.

I agree, FTP is not how this game is intended to be played.

It's a matter of viewpoint, all companies want to make as much money as they can without violating the law or their ethics, however each company tends to define their own ethics (unless a professional body does this for them). This can be interpretted as greed.

However nobody in this thread has said that Greed is good, and are not emulating Gordon Gekko.

They are just saying that companies are in business to make money.

Considering you couldn't wear purple and had a limited amount of WZs, FPs and 0 Ops per week? yeah...

And I said the "Restricted Crowd' are for the most part the 'Casual Crowd'. I just find it odd that someone who isn't paying for this game can consider themselves invested enough to complain about P2W.

um, loads of MMO's pull that C@#& on you, they are there to make money, they might be more subtle, but they are not there because the software company has a big heart.

But they do it if they could make way more money and noone says that customers can't have experienced that it works and tell this in other forums.
And yeah right you always say that they should do this and that because it makes more money and helps keeping the game up. But heaven forbid they would have to adjust their current business in the favour of the players a little bit to achieve even more. Just for your information alot of browser games are far bigger then any 3d mmo we have to this date. And they do this since more than a decade. So don't try to to tell me that this is a bad idea if you have no clue what this business is capable of. They are mmos as this game is just not in their own client.

if you're business is to make sprockets, then you're in business to make sprockets. if you're unable to sell your sprockets for more than what you make them for, you won't make a profit and you will lose you're business. profit is important; i recognize that. but successful sprocket companies don't exist to make as much profit as possible. successful sprocket companies exist to make sprockets.

entertainment companies that focus almost exclusively on video games (that's a closer analogy) exist to make entertaining video games. when they lose the focus of video games, and focus instead on making as much profit as possible, then the product (video games) will suffer. i think it's questionable as to whether letting your product slide in order to switch your focus to profit is actually more profitable. as a consumer, i would rather pay for a game that focuses on quality content instead of a game that focuses on somebody other than me making a lot of money. as a consumer, i really don't care if the CEO of EA gets a whole lot richer; in fact, it kind of upsets me that the gap between the rich and poor seems to be growing. unfortunately, despite being well educated, i will not be on the rich side. i don't mind paying for the product, but given the option between paying for a quality product and paying to make someone else more money, i'm going to choose the quality product.

the cost of this game paid sub over a year is still cheaper than buying 3 console games that are useless once you beat them. i think the sub price justified.