Pay to Win

Well but then why not add more QoL features to the subscription. Legacy bank, dual spec, on and off switchable double xp, more options to preview what you wear and your stats.
And then give f2p players a one week subscription pass they can use when ever they want.
Like i said before this is very common in browser games and they have a lot of success with it. It is just all about showing f2p players how much more comfortable your life as subscriber is.

No company gives more value for the money just because some customers ask for it.

Now excuse me while I go play better MMOs - where I am rewarded for supporting the game upon, unlike some games I know..Also with those free content update that I am allowed to enjoy without having to pay even more on top of a subscription on the cartel market.

Go ahead, close down the forum - this is the closest you will get of criticism because all F2P players are 100% ignored by this company.

Heh, true.

But you would not know this by reading a gaming forum.

It's still NOT clear to me why the thread exists. There is always a personal motive for creating a thread topic and feeding it when people disagree with you.

Is it that Propane "wants" to go F2P and not lose any subscriber privileges? Is this the root of the topic?

OR

Is this just a good old fashioned complaint for complaint sake thread?

I honestly can't tell.

These threads are just as common in LotRO's forums as here, and IMO the LotRO equivalent of Preferred (Premium) is better than TOR's Preferred. The usual rant was that subs deserve more, which would require Premium to get more to stay afloat on that "rising tide." Many people, when confronted with "If you think sub is a bad deal, go Premium" replied "But Premium has too many restrictions!" And when countered with "Then stay subbed," they would reply "But sub does not give me enough for my money!" ad infinitum. I have a hunch what they were after is the same thing their counterparts want here: all the benefits of subbing but at the cost of being Preferred/Premium.

One of the big differences between this f2p and lotro is you can earn points in game and you cant here. Also you can buy expansions with points as well. This game is put together better though than that one at least in my opinion

Seems to me that the 'Restricted Crowd' for the most part are the 'Casual Crowd'. I find it strange that on the one hand P2W deals with the competative/hardcore aspect of a game, but on the other, these people won't subscribe to the game. If you are someone who cares enough to come on the forums and complain about P2W, how can you also be playing as a 'casual' and are F2P or Preferred?

P2W can only exist when dealing with a Sub VS a Sub. You can't play the Roller Caster Tycoon Trial and complain about the P2W and restrictions...

Once more, with feeling. The FTP option is basically available for you to play the storylines for free. If you want a full multiplayer experience, you should pay for it. Makes sense to me.