BioWare, you're TORParse's only hope...

By my math, if 20k people download, and 10 others benefit from it, giving your hypothesis the benefit of the doubt, this would encompass 200k raiders, not 600k. But, mox nix. Someone else is making a parser and people will have another useful tool soon enough. But, in 10 days... TORparse is done.

there are different ways to play this game. it would not be right to say one way is better than another. someone who only wants to log in to buy stuff from the cartel market is an exception, since that is not playing a game at all; that is shopping.

if what you're doing is just a very basic sort of "hit stuff" and running through planets 3 or 5 levels ahead of the content and such, or pugging warzones and flashpoints without actually knowing what abilities your class has and what they do, that's fine. i don't think it's right for someone else to tell you that you aren't playing the game right. that's the right game for you, and all i would ask is try to communicate with your pug group the best you can.

sometimes the content can actually be fairly difficult if you aren't overleveled or overgeared. that aspect of the game appeals to other people, and that is just as acceptable. for these people, they want to get every bit of damage they can (or know how to mitigate damage, heal, ect.) so they know which attack can give you a proc, and what order to hit buttons is best, and things like that. for these people, it's important to have a tool that provides feedback on what their attacks are doing. i'm not elite, or even particularly good, but the game i enjoy is to challenge myself the best i can and having a tool that provides feedback is necessary for that. otherwise, i'm just guessing. the point is, pretty much all raiders use this tool, or mox, or something similar.

this thread isn't really here for people who don't like tools that provide feedback based on what attacks you do. this thread is for the people that do like these tools and are upset they are losing a valuable tool. your posts dismissing them and saying they are a small minority that doesn't matter is not helpful.

the guy that said he was developing a .net tool also said he was not able to release it to the public because he didn't have a storage option available. maybe that will be worked out, but suggesting the problem has been solved and done is not accurate.

i see. you're comments about the percentage of active players in swtor that use parsers was an unbiased and honest look at the data available to arrive at the truth, since you thought other people were skewing the numbers to present a false picture of the current state of things.

to get the accurate percentage of players using parses, you would need some honest numbers of active players. some throw-away number of everyone who created a f2p account or something like that wouldn't work. we know that would create an inaccurate picture of what is happening. where was your data set for how many people are actually playing swtor? let's not use marketing numbers we know have been fudged. let's use a number that reflects people who actually log in and spend time playing the game.

short of honest numbers on both sides of the equation, your made-up math is no better than anyone else's, right? i'm not putting words in your mouth, i just don't understand why you think your analysis is accurate. it could be. i accept that as a possibility. just for me, your numbers raise the BS flag.

You should read the statistics for the project, I would not consider over 600,000 unique visits a small portion of the player base, or hardly anyone.

Love how people generalize based only on their narrow view, or ignorance of what other people do.

As someone who got his start on a fan site himself many years ago, I really appreciate what you are trying to do! Unfortunately, "taking over" a fan site or offering top secret development support/time to a fan site is just not something we do.

Just like many of you, I personally think TORParse is a great tool and I will be sad to see it go. One thing I have learned though from being on a fan site, and from being here at BioWare, is that when one site goes down, usually there are others ready to take their place.

-eric

this should not be taken as an attack on you personally; it's just a response trying to understand why you're reading a forum thread you don't care about and why you're trying to create an argument that suggest people who use parser programs are such an insignificant portion of the community.

you used a figure of 5 million unique accounts in 18 months for swtor. that number is even more suspect.

so, what i don't understand, and what prompted my reply, is why you would feel the need to question the validity of such a statement when you don't even use these tools?