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Gamebreaker: "Bioware gives us ****"

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Gamebreaker: "Bioware gives us ****"

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CKHelseth
07.11.2013 , 04:52 PM | #171
Quote: Originally Posted by MrJurgens View Post
Some of you need to stop with the harassment. It's ridiculous. This player is just critical about the game, and to an extent, I am too.

I have had no issues about what this player has posted on the forums, and s/he has every right to post their concerns until they decide to cancel their sub for good.

Jeebus, just because we play the game doesn't mean we have to blindly love it like some of you do, and defend it to the point where any critical post—whether constructive or not—is said to be made by a "hater", "complainer", "QQ'er", etc. Even go as so far as to call out the OP for "trolling".

Like, seriously?!



Normally I would completely agree with you but...

I come on the forums once a day and for the last week I have see endless posts and threads by the OP that complain about every topic under the sun in regard to this game. This isn't about discontent with the product this is about attention and how bad the OP wants it. They have found that complaining gets big threads and clearly feeds their ego to be a focal point of conversation.

No one is behind the screen crying because the big meanies on the forum QQ'd or insulted them in some way. They are loving it. Otherwise they wouldn't keep posting.

I think people should just ignore the threads and stop feeding it by not responding them in any way. They are pointless in nearly every regard and generally just a rehash of the same complaint that has been going for a while now.
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chuixupu
07.11.2013 , 04:55 PM | #172
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
I thought the point was about people spending money to fast track, not how much is spent specifically on it.
It was, but the OP made the statement "because people are rich". You don't have to be rich or even remotely well-off to unlock legacy perks. Then the OP said "I don't mean those people, I mean people who spend $200 on cartel coins". Which is kind of irrelevant, you can't spend $200 a month on fast tracking. Hence my comment. You're just getting lost in a typical pointless offshoot of a statement which could be avoided with less hyperbole.
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MrJurgens
07.11.2013 , 05:01 PM | #173
Quote: Originally Posted by TheNahash View Post
I think that it does have to be constructive.

The only time that raging without proposing a solution is OK, is when we're talking about technical issues of the game. In those cases, it's obviously enough to say "X thing is not working properly", because we do not (all) have the technical knowledge to propose a solution. Plus, that's not our job.

For any other case, blind hate (or love) is pointless when it's not followed by a suggestion as to what should be done to rectify the situation.

So passive aggressive and ironic threads created with the sole intention of starting a flame war have no place in a forum where we should be providing feedback.
Those kind of threads do not help the developers, they clog up the forum and they are (I repeat) pointless. If someone loves/likes/enjoys the game, they should be helping it, not trolling it.

I don't want to make it personal, so I will not comment on what you do, but I repeat that I personally find posts like "BioFAIL u suck" pointless.
To each their own. What one may find to be constructive (or at least fine), another may find to be not-so or just blind hate.

I can name a couple of blind lovers of this game right now, but I don't want to risk losing my posting privileges for a few days. It's just the blind lovers who tend to be very hypocritical because their posts tend to also creates some sort of flame wars, and just really problematic posts because they attack the critical posters whether they are constructive or not.

I haven't seen the OP say anything along the lines of "BIOFAIL u suck!", but I have seen several critical posts from him/her lately. I haven't read most of them, but some of these forum users really need to stop with the name-calling and harassment. They can lose their posting privileges permanently, but that's not the point here.

I think this thread caused issues because of the fact the OP hasn't said anything "positive" about the game, so even if I did read most of the OP's previous threads, I would still keep my stance on this most likely.

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TheNahash
07.11.2013 , 05:15 PM | #174
Quote: Originally Posted by MrJurgens View Post
To each their own. What one may find to be constructive (or at least fine), another may find to be not-so or just blind hate.

I can name a couple of blind lovers of this game right now, but I don't want to risk losing my posting privileges for a few days. It's just the blind lovers who tend to be very hypocritical because their posts tend to also creates some sort of flame wars, and just really problematic posts because they attack the critical posters whether they are constructive or not.

I haven't seen the OP say anything along the lines of "BIOFAIL u suck!", but I have seen several critical posts from him/her lately. I haven't read most of them, but some of these forum users really need to stop with the name-calling and harassment. They can lose their posting privileges permanently, but that's not the point here.
I don't think it's a matter of who finds what constructive. There must be a suggestion in order for anyone to find it constructive or not.

It's not even about agreeing with the OP (any OP that is, not just this OP).
Any suggestion could be a good or a bad suggestion, depending on who you ask. That's why there is a forum so we can discuss which suggestions are good and which are bad, in order for Bioware to know what we want/accept and what not. When there is not even a hint of suggestion in a thread, yeah, it's a pointless thread.

Blind lovers are no different than blind haters in terms of how much they hurt the game. However, a blind lover of a game that you have to pay for in order to post in its forum makes way more sense than someone who simply hates it. They're not better, but their existence makes more sense, at least to me.

Quote: Originally Posted by MrJurgens View Post
I think this thread caused issues because of the fact the OP hasn't said anything "positive" about the game, so even if I did read most of the OP's previous threads, I would still keep my stance on this most likely.
I think this thread caused issues because it's pretty much the same post that the OP has been posting for the past few days, both in terms of what she says and her responses to anyone who disagrees.
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07.11.2013 , 05:19 PM | #175
Quote: Originally Posted by daclouddwalker View Post
Well, you can get it the old fashion way.. why worry about the people who want to pay? Im sorry i dont mean to drag it to this thread i just fail to see how it effects you and YOUR game exp.
Answer, as you and I both know, is, it doesn't.

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Arkerus
07.11.2013 , 06:16 PM | #176
Quote: Originally Posted by Ayelinna View Post
Maybe you should stop harassing people and get back to the actual thread topic instead of telling other people whether they're complaining or not. No matter how hard you try, you can't get rid of me Andryah, you're just going to have to accept the fact I'm allowed to voice my opinion, whether you agree with it or not

Thanks have a nice day
Personally, I'd stick you on ignore too. I haven't yet because you haven't gotten into it with me but from what I've seen your posts don't offer much. They basically sum up to a lot of self entitled whining. I mean, you can have valid complaint and you can voice you opinion but don't complain when people call you out for offering little in terms of solutions or reasoning.

You either like the product and offer valid criticism or you make ridiculous post, making absurd assumptions about what you deserve. At that point, why don't you just quit?

You don't quit because you like the game but have a self serving need to be noticed.

And if you think I'm some glorious defender you can check my posts. I make comments on things I don't agre with all the time but I don't jump into the realm of self entitled soap boxing.

Meh. Suit yourself.
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Nickious
07.11.2013 , 07:06 PM | #177
Quote: Originally Posted by Ayelinna View Post
Okay guys im back, its nice to see we've had---oh wait

Here's a simple list for you Andryah to look back on every time you're about to write something:

1. Just because you don't agree with someones ideas/solutions/opinions, doesn't mean they are complaining.
2 . I do put MY OWN PERSONAL solutions to the game, just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean they are right or wrong. It is an opinion. An opinion isn't right or wrong.


....thats your own personal opinion. You aren't right, and you aren't wrong.

In other news...when have you ever said anything negative about this game? How much are they paying you, Andryah? And this is a serious question Andryah...why do you need to feel to comment about other people complaining? Why don't you just you know....talk about the actual topic instead of harassing people, telling them they are complaining? You don't have the right to dictate to me or anyone whether or not someone is complaining. .
Obviously someone wasn't actually paying attention because shes actually criticized the legacy system and some other things as well.

You can continue your crying like a entitled baby. I'm tired of your nonsense. Its one thing to complain and offer constructive criticism, which i never see you do but its all about such trivial ****.

Ignored from now on.

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LordSkyKnight
07.11.2013 , 08:45 PM | #178
Quote: Originally Posted by Nickious View Post
Obviously someone wasn't actually paying attention because shes actually criticized the legacy system and some other things as well.

You can continue your crying like a entitled baby. I'm tired of your nonsense. Its one thing to complain and offer constructive criticism, which i never see you do but its all about such trivial ****.

Ignored from now on.
I don't get it. You are pissed about what she is posting so why would you even come into the thread and post stuff like this? This is pretty much trolling. Let her rant and move on. Do you think you are acting any better than her for what she is angry about?

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MidichIorian
07.11.2013 , 09:03 PM | #179
It's a horribly maintained product and the only way of manifesting that, seeing how they've ignored the 50 complaints/day on more or less the same topics for 19 months now, is to stop giving them money. The game is filled with bugs, the PvP updates are long overdue and the PvE updates are only catering to a small elite. As a somewhat casual PvE'er and foremost PvP'er I havent had a content update in a year. What have I been paying for? Do you see any light at the end of the tunnel? I don't, which is why I'm not even playing the game anymore despite that I still have days on my sub.

And yes, plenty of you will disagree. I probably would have disagreed 6 months ago too because I still had hope back then. You hope and think they'll surprise us but they never do, or atleast not in a positive way, and the disappointments accumulate until you reach your breaking point. At this point I wouldnt recommend the game to anyone and I regret having invested time into it in the first place.

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07.11.2013 , 09:17 PM | #180
Quote: Originally Posted by LordArtemis View Post
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In other words, Andryah in a more compressed package

But back on topic, I have my gripes and complaints about the game, but complaining about getting something for free isn't one of them. I saw 500cc and instantly thought, 'cool...more packs I can sell on the GTN so I can buy a few more augments.'
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