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Gamebreaker: "Bioware gives us ****"

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Gamebreaker: "Bioware gives us ****"

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ZayneDraay
07.11.2013 , 04:31 PM | #161
Quote: Originally Posted by veyl View Post
If they wanted to do something special for Kotor, the reason this game (Swtor) exists, why put a price tag on it at all? It's a greedy move, plain and simple, and that dude called them out on it.

If bioware decided to do something special for everyone and sent that title in the mail, it wouldn't have caught so much heat. Charging for it... will always cause people to be pissed off, especially Subs.
I'm a sub and I'm not pissed. The fact is that maybe not EVERYBODY wants the title, so maybe they thought charging the people who DID want it a small amount of CC might keep everyone happy. We don't know what it's like to be those guys working on this game day in and day out. So before you go judging them, ask yourself if you could do better.
"Those who know me by reputation say I am a creature of the cold darkness, a monster if you will. Now you too shall fear me." - Darth Crios, lord of icy wrath

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Tachenko_Yuri
07.11.2013 , 04:31 PM | #162
Quote: Originally Posted by Ayelinna View Post
Just because you're rich irl, doesn't mean you should be able to bypass requirements in game that other people have to earn, in my opinion. I don't care how people spend their money, I just want Bioware to prevent them from bypassing systems, and getting the item the normal way...where you play the game to earn it. I dont care about the people who want to pay. I care about Bioware allowing them to pay. End of off topic discussion.
Not developers, not singular games, not companies.

Darling, welcome to the new world of gaming, where the rulers of this new era of gaming are expansions, DLCs, and most importantly, microtransactions. Treek and it's legacy override are nothing to what's happening out there, like other recent threads have proven.. i'm sure you agree that a few coins for an ewok are nothing compared to 9k dollar ships floating around in eve..

and as a 50 legcay, being able to buy treek when and how I feel like, doesn't really bother me on how others are going to acquire him... or is it really that " no-more-special-snowflake " thingy?

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MrJurgens
07.11.2013 , 04:36 PM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by TheNahash View Post
...and that's where you're wrong
I said that because NOT every critical post has to be constructive. Usually when it's constructive, it has suggestions to fix the issues that's making the critical player constructive. Just because someone makes a "negative"/critical post about the game, doesn't mean they can make suggestions to improve it. They may not have any suggestions to fix it, and rather leave it for BW to figure out and fix it. Not only that, but if any suggestions are brought up not everyone may agree.

I've made a few posts that wouldn't be deemed constructive, but does that give others the right to label me as a "hater", "QQ'er", "troll"?

No. I may sound like one, but it doesn't mean I am one. I can be as critical as I want to about the game, and that's what I'll keep doing with most of the game till I see some major improvements.

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Soluss
07.11.2013 , 04:37 PM | #164
Quote: Originally Posted by chuixupu View Post
There really isn't that much you can "fast track" with real money. The people who spend that much money per month are buying cartel packs for fluff items.
You can fast track every legacy level achievement, with the exception of HK51. Not that I really care, just saying. I don't agree with being able to do so but its not game breaking to me.
James Ohlen: " For 2012 we really want players to feel like they're getting their money's worth. You're going to see so many changes and additions to the Star Wars Universe. It's going to be impressive. We have our Update 1.2 coming in the next week and then after that it's going to continue to roll out month after month. It's exciting."

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chuixupu
07.11.2013 , 04:38 PM | #165
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
You can fast track every legacy level achievement, with the exception of HK51. Not that I really care, just saying. I don't agree with being able to do so but its not game breaking to me.
Yeah, and you'd be done with all that in a matter of minutes. You don't spend $200 a month on unlocking legacy perks.
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Ayelinna
07.11.2013 , 04:39 PM | #166
Quote: Originally Posted by TheNahash View Post
...and that's where you're wrong
He's right actually. There are people on this forum who will troll whether or not your post is constructive.

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ZayneDraay
07.11.2013 , 04:39 PM | #167
Quote: Originally Posted by Ayelinna View Post
It affects my respect for Bioware and this game. The less I'm going to respect Bioware, the more chance they're going to lose a "traditional MMOer" customer. I think everyone should have the same requirements in order to get something which is related to combat. Just because you're rich irl, doesn't mean you should be able to bypass requirements in game that other people have to earn, in my opinion. I don't care how people spend their money, I just want Bioware to prevent them from bypassing systems, and getting the item the normal way...where you play the game to earn it. I dont care about the people who want to pay. I care about Bioware allowing them to pay. End of off topic discussion.
If we followed your logic, MMOs would be DEAD. You can't have them always running in a state where the difficulty setting is kept at the same pace, that defies MMO logic. People need to be constantly tested and have the bar raised if Bioware wants to keep customers. this also goes with obtaining any kind of gear (modded or not). The fact is, some people might find obtaining the gear too challenging, or they don't want their Alts to go through the same difficult thing again and again. Besides, you should be able to hold your head up high with what you accomplished, and not cry like a baby over a natural process of running an MMO.
"Those who know me by reputation say I am a creature of the cold darkness, a monster if you will. Now you too shall fear me." - Darth Crios, lord of icy wrath

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Soluss
07.11.2013 , 04:41 PM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by chuixupu View Post
Yeah, and you'd be done with all that in a matter of minutes. You don't spend $200 a month on unlocking legacy perks.
I thought the point was about people spending money to fast track, not how much is spent specifically on it.
James Ohlen: " For 2012 we really want players to feel like they're getting their money's worth. You're going to see so many changes and additions to the Star Wars Universe. It's going to be impressive. We have our Update 1.2 coming in the next week and then after that it's going to continue to roll out month after month. It's exciting."

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TheNahash
07.11.2013 , 04:45 PM | #169
Quote: Originally Posted by MrJurgens View Post
I said that because NOT every critical post has to be constructive. Usually when it's constructive, it has suggestions to fix the issues that's making the critical player constructive. Just because someone makes a "negative"/critical post about the game, doesn't mean they can make suggestions to improve it. They may not have any suggestions to fix it, and rather leave it for BW to figure out and fix it. Not only that, but if any suggestions are brought up not everyone may agree.

I've made a few posts that wouldn't be deemed constructive, but does that give others the right to label me as a "hater", "QQ'er", "troll"?

No.
I think that it does have to be constructive.

The only time that raging without proposing a solution is OK, is when we're talking about technical issues of the game. In those cases, it's obviously enough to say "X thing is not working properly", because we do not (all) have the technical knowledge to propose a solution. Plus, that's not our job.

For any other case, blind hate (or love) is pointless when it's not followed by a suggestion as to what should be done to rectify the situation.

So passive aggressive and ironic threads created with the sole intention of starting a flame war have no place in a forum where we should be providing feedback.
Those kind of threads do not help the developers, they clog up the forum and they are (I repeat) pointless. If someone loves/likes/enjoys the game, they should be helping it, not trolling it.

I don't want to make it personal, so I will not comment on what you do, but I repeat that I personally find posts like "BioFAIL u suck" pointless.
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TheNahash
07.11.2013 , 04:49 PM | #170
Quote: Originally Posted by Ayelinna View Post
He's right actually. There are people on this forum who will troll whether or not your post is constructive.
I already explained why I think he's not right about this.

As for the trolling part, yes unfortunately that's how the Internet works these days.
Trolling is the "cool" thing to do.

It doesn't help though, when people create threads that provide no feedback as to what should've been done instead of what was done, with a "holier-than-thou" attitude that's guaranteed to attract the worst of the worst trolls.
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