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Bioware please make weekly polls

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Bioware please make weekly polls
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Ayelinna
07.09.2013 , 12:52 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post



One time where we have used polls, like for the Party Jawa, is when we already have plans in place to implement all of the relevant choices. The Party Jawa, which won the poll (on the forums and on Facebook) was given to players for appreciation, while the other two were still available but placed in the market.


Ok...now replace Party Jawa with "Example Species 1" ....and you have my point.

Let subscribers choose which one they get free, and put the others on the market or whatever. Just something to reward subscribers.

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SwoopingLion
07.09.2013 , 12:54 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Ayelinna View Post
If I was Bioware, I would make a poll...and whatever the best vote was...I would put in the game for my players.
Any then your MMO would crash and burn in a veritable nova of flying mounts, bikinis, rainbow coloured lightsabers and playable Jawas.

You can't let on line polls dictate what you put into a game. Companies look into what the playerbase wants based on behaviour and statistics, not "lel let's vote Hordor in as nezt platerble race lololol".
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Darth_Moonshadow
07.09.2013 , 12:57 PM | #43
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Yeah for that reason a pop-up when you log into the launcher would be best, and the announcement message could be changed to tell everyone that opens the launcher about the poll. That way lazy people couldn't skew results or cry because nobody valued their input. There are plenty of ways to accurately poll more than 5% of the population, Eric was just opening himself to ridicule with that line. Still, that is irrelevant if BW doesn't want to deal with the other nonsense that comes with polling.
I don't think anyone actually reads the launcher unless it's a patch day. Most time I just tap enter as soon as the PLAY button lights up.

Plus, knowing this community, do you really think adding a pop up is going to stop the inevitable cries of recounts and misvote?
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JimG
07.09.2013 , 12:57 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post

Another reason is that you have to realize how much of a minority of players actually use the forums. Without looking at the actual numbers and guessing from the top of my head, I would say less than 5% of our subscribers use the forums regularly.
The good old vocal minority. People think just because 10-15 people post something in a couple of threads that there is some sort of consensus on an issue.

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Darth_Moonshadow
07.09.2013 , 12:59 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Ayelinna View Post
Ok...now replace Party Jawa with "Example Species 1" ....and you have my point.

Let subscribers choose which one they get free, and put the others on the market or whatever. Just something to reward subscribers.
That infers that Free players and Preferreds are not allowed to vote, or that whatever they do vote for will be closed off to them once it goes live, which will result in major QQ.
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TUXs
07.09.2013 , 01:00 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Moonshadow View Post
That infers that Free players and Preferreds are not allowed to vote, or that whatever they do vote for will be closed off to them once it goes live, which will result in major QQ.
They have an in-game polling option - they utilized it VERY heavily during beta.
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Pistols
07.09.2013 , 01:03 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Hey folks,

Thought this might be a good place to explain our reasoning on why you don't see a lot of polls from us on the forums. Some of you have already covered some of them but I thought it would be good to get some yellow text behind it.

I think the first and most important thing is that by us posting a poll, folks will assume that the winner is guaranteed to see action. If we say "What species would you like to see in SWTOR?" and Togruta wins, in your example. Everyone will assume we are definitely going to add Togruta to the game. Unfortunately, it just wouldn't work that way.

Another reason is that you have to realize how much of a minority of players actually use the forums. Without looking at the actual numbers and guessing from the top of my head, I would say less than 5% of our subscribers use the forums regularly. Keep in mind that even less than that % would even answer the poll. That is a pretty tiny group of folks to let make actionable decisions on, which is why we use a lot of facets of data (including the forums) to make decisions, and not them alone.

One time where we have used polls, like for the Party Jawa, is when we already have plans in place to implement all of the relevant choices. The Party Jawa, which won the poll (on the forums and on Facebook) was given to players for appreciation, while the other two were still available but placed in the market.

I am not saying you will never see polls from us again, but they are tricky as players tend to take them as a guarantee, as opposed to just a tool to gauge opinion.

Hopefully that makes sense!

-eric
I agree polls can be somewhat misleading due to the smaller amount of users posting compared to those in the game.

However, James Ohlen was pretty good about feedback, as he always sent Stephen Reid to the forums asking for feedback from players on a variety of topics.

Just look up Stephen Reid's "Threads started by" and you will see tons of feedback requests. THIS is what got players involved and talking to others in-game, which in turn got a few of those peeps to come to the forums. Sadly, we don't see that anymore, cause the care-meter needle is sitting at 0.

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Superman_AZ
07.09.2013 , 01:06 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Ayelinna View Post
If I was Bioware, I would make a poll...and whatever the best vote was...I would put in the game for my players.

Which is why many of us who read your posts are thankful this is not the case.
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Darth_Moonshadow
07.09.2013 , 01:06 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
They have an in-game polling option - they utilized it VERY heavily during beta.
I remember. I answer all the questions "Very Satisfied" just so I could log out and swap characters. And I know I was not the only one.

Ingame polls are bad. Social media polling MIGHT work better, since nearly everyone is either on Facebook, Tumblr, Twitter, Google+ or whatever new social media site the internet chooses to launch. It reaches all the players eventually, and it might reach the players who quit. But, again, results can still be iffy. Troll answers and that sort. Gotta be very careful how to keep the results serious otherwise we end up with a whooping 69% of the vote for the next playable species being "Your Mom".
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Mevan
07.09.2013 , 01:08 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
I am not saying you will never see polls from us again, but they are tricky as players tend to take them as a guarantee, as opposed to just a tool to gauge opinion.
Players taking polls as an indication of something definitely happening is better than your team consistently making bad choices that result is even greater backlash. This would be a much better game if you guys actually took our opinions- the people who are paying you to add new content- into consideration before deciding what you're going to add next.

That aside, use in-game polls. That way, people are very likely to vote. Sure, it may take some time to implement, but if it means you start listening to our feedback I personally wouldn't mind the delay.