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Sith inquisitor most powerful being in Swtor?

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Sith inquisitor most powerful being in Swtor?

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lironBD
07.08.2013 , 03:30 PM | #1
first of all fair warning spoilers on all aspects of the game.

As we know the most powerful being the the swtor time period universe is the Sith Emperor but.. he is mentally unstable and using servants instead of acting himself, he lost a battle vs a Jedi knight (was the voice actually) and bottom line he so far lost the grip on the empire.

Out of the other forces in the galaxy of swtor few notable beings of power:
Satale Shan - lost a fight vs malgus on first trailer = she is not worthy to compete.
Malgus, Revan, any other FP or ops or World boss is not a competitor as well as they lost to the players at some point.

Dread Lords - we killed one on an ops others were prisoners on belsavis for years = whimps.

on last note we then compare the Characters of the players,

Jedi Knight - he is very notable being able to defeat many powerful siths and the voice of the emperor himself but over all he is just a very skilled jedi strong in the force.

Jedi Counslar - A very strong being in the force which learned a shielding ritual from Jedi masters of old. I'm going light side path here and say he is mostly peaceful and not mass murdering psycho yet his powers are learnt from other jedi masters which means nothing new... been there.. done that.

Trooper - Havoc squad leader, skilled soldier.... just normal being no super powers.

Smuggler - not going even to take this one in serious way inside this competition.

Sith Warrior - from the start he is presented as member of proud sith lineage, strong in the force and transform a cleansing ritual of the jedi to the dark side (tatooine), in his service is Jaesa Wilsam a young jedi with the power to read the true selfs of people using the force.
Most notable for being the "Wrath" of the sith emperor which means anyone other then the sith emperor should lick his boots, but his greater strength being the "Wrath" is his greatest weakness as he is second in command and if anything happens to the emperor he is nothing.

Bounty hunter - Champion of the great hunt, Champion of mandalore. great warrior but mostly same as republic trooper.

Imperial Agent - I went as dark side ended as the hand of Jadus and head of the sith intelligence. with the secret society intel and the might of Jadus he is formidable being but like Sith warrior without Jadus he is nothing.
Trying going solo with the codex might net you some more points here but still normal beings no super powers.

Last we get to the sith inquisitor....
He starts as a slave and rise to the rank of Dark Council Member out of sheer strength and might, non could oppose him.
we learned he is a decedent of Aloysius Kallig which was greatest foe and nemesis of Tulak Hord lord of the sith.

Regarding this proud linage it was said:
"Easily the most ambitious, and therefore the most dangerous, of my rivals is Kallig. Therefore, he shall be the first to die."
―Tulak Hord

Next not only that He is from this mighty sith bloodline in the inquisitor service bound the Dashade (force user eating assassin) Khem Val which was the personal assassin of tulak hord himself!

At the end of the first chapter the inquisitor learns the technique of "Force Walking", in which he bounds the spirit of the dead long past force users inside him and bind their powers to him. He learns this technique from no other then Lord Ergast himself (the one which invented it),
with his power he bounds to himself the following force users spirits:
1. Ergast
2. Darth Andru
3. Kalatosh Zavros
4. Horak-mul
5. Ancient Voss spirit during the ritual on voss.

And those are only during the 3 chapters of the game we don't know how many countless more he bounds to his will. more then that on planet belsavis using a sentient machine known as "The mother" which the rakata used to create new races he rebuild his body into new superhuman and may I add immortal like state to harness the power of the bound spirits.
On voss a ritual is made to make the mind of the inquisitor being able to hold the spirits bound to his will without being driven insane.

After those rituals and the powers gained from the bound spirits Darth Nox (I went dark side) Just wipe the floor with Darth Thanaton and kick his ***.

here you can see nice vid of that battle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4_6qyg-DwU

I believe that after the events of chapters 1 to 3 the sith inquisitor as a being is the most powerful creture in the swtor universe out of all known characters.

thoughts ?
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Oracans-> Sith Pureblood Inquisitor Sorcerer

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_biddan_
07.08.2013 , 05:52 PM | #2
in my modest opinion,he is probably the third most powerful sith who ever lived,if vader had remained intact nox/imperious/occlus would have been 4th.
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lironBD
07.08.2013 , 05:55 PM | #3
who are the other two?
I'll guess one of your choices is the emperor ?
Europe -> The Red Ecplipse
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SithKoriandr
07.08.2013 , 06:30 PM | #4
What? The Consular learned a technique from Noeticon images of Force Masters, but it was a technique not many others could learn.

And the storyline is mentions many times how powerful the Consular is, in fact, so powerful it surprises other Force Users.

Consular against huge impenetrable blast doors? Rips them apart with just the force.

I felt my Consular was way more powerful than my Knight. Consular is just extremely underrated/underestimated. Likely due to the Knight (and even Warrior and Inquisitor) being much more braggy.

You basically have three powerful hot heads and the powerful calm one.
"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more...than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so *********** what." - Stephen Fry

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lironBD
07.08.2013 , 07:36 PM | #5
not so much. yes the consular can rip a door or pull people from the abyss.
also let's compare...

consular get shielding technique which protect someone from being force manipulated at the price of the consular own health!

the inquisitor gets the Force Walker technique which also only ergast knew of and with it he bound the spirits of dead force users to his will and become stronger!

no brainier here.

the "you are so strong" is same line consular\JK and SW gets to show they are almighty force users.
where the consular gets respect the inquisitor made a lord of the dark council to grovel and crawl on the floor like a worm... that's no easy trick at all! also to bound lord ergast himself? with his own force technique? I just lol'd myself to death when i did it... I mean I remembered the plate on dromund kaas near his statue... just laughed myself there.

End game battle the JC vs SI the JC could try some shielding or something or use force powers but in front of him will stand not 1 but entire host of psycho powerful sith lords of ancient times with powers to annihilate planets like insects.

Gameplay wise ofc for balance sake we can't do that kind of things as SI but story wise? doing makeb, shroud and Dreadseed line as inquisitor I think I made some dark lords pee in their pants while I walked into the room...hell even mocked the emperor....
Europe -> The Red Ecplipse
Oracans-> Sith Pureblood Inquisitor Sorcerer

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Aeneas_Falco
07.08.2013 , 08:21 PM | #6
The Emperor is the most powerful force user from the Imperial faction, IMO. Considering the Jedi Knight defeated him, I think the JK is the most powerful playable force user in the game.

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lironBD
07.08.2013 , 08:26 PM | #7
JK killed the VOICE of the emperor. Sith warrior do same thing on chapter 3 at voice while following the command of the emperor himself which got himself trapped ! inside a voice mystic body.

so emperor is *****, sith warrior same level as JK.

but body\mind and power wise inquisitor stronger then them all.
Europe -> The Red Ecplipse
Oracans-> Sith Pureblood Inquisitor Sorcerer

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SithKoriandr
07.08.2013 , 10:17 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by lironBD View Post
not so much. yes the consular can rip a door or pull people from the abyss.
also let's compare...

consular get shielding technique which protect someone from being force manipulated at the price of the consular own health!

the inquisitor gets the Force Walker technique which also only ergast knew of and with it he bound the spirits of dead force users to his will and become stronger!

no brainier here.

the "you are so strong" is same line consular\JK and SW gets to show they are almighty force users.
where the consular gets respect the inquisitor made a lord of the dark council to grovel and crawl on the floor like a worm... that's no easy trick at all! also to bound lord ergast himself? with his own force technique? I just lol'd myself to death when i did it... I mean I remembered the plate on dromund kaas near his statue... just laughed myself there.

End game battle the JC vs SI the JC could try some shielding or something or use force powers but in front of him will stand not 1 but entire host of psycho powerful sith lords of ancient times with powers to annihilate planets like insects.

Gameplay wise ofc for balance sake we can't do that kind of things as SI but story wise? doing makeb, shroud and Dreadseed line as inquisitor I think I made some dark lords pee in their pants while I walked into the room...hell even mocked the emperor....
The cost of the technique is only temporary. The only reason it persists so long in Chapter 1, is because the strength given couldn't be replenished until the plague creators defeat.

So the Consular doesn't stay weakened. And it's a technique that's useful even after the initial reason for learning it is taken care of.

As for the groveling Darth, I see no reason none of the Force Users couldn't pull that one off. Not exactly the Consular's style as portrayed in game however (and I do think the Consular could use a bit of the Inquisitor snark).

In reply to the other post. Yes, SW kills a VOICE. That Voice also stands there and LETS YOU kill him. It's not like the SW actually fought him like the JK does (and the JK storyline still has debate as to whether or not it's the Emperor or the VOICE).

And the Consular defeats the most powerful of the Children of the Emperor, which are alternate personalities of the Emperor implanted in them.

As for gameplay. Yeah. I don't count that of course. As much as I enjoy my BH, story wise, it's the Force Users who are the powerhouses. It's just how SW is.
"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more...than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so *********** what." - Stephen Fry

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lironBD
07.08.2013 , 11:00 PM | #9
maybe i didn't got the JC story right. From what I got the Shielding technique only other user in known records DIED in the process and the JC was very weakened while using it.

All in all the point of the technique is to defend someone... not making someone stronger in ridiculous ways like the Force Walking.

anyway the emperor was not killed by the JK: wookiepedia: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_Emperor

I read somewhere on the forum that there was a book writen after the swtor time period with the emperor in it and wookiepedia states he dies of natural causes.

and iirc from my SW dark side run the VOICE on voss did fought me as Sel-Makur thingie took over it so we got not only the emperor powers inside that body but also a dark side spirit created from the division in the voss race so actually that makes the wrath even stronger then the JK.

but the whole point of my little competition was because as far as I can remember the SI is the only one which is mentally, physically altered by unique powers to become super being and he took the spirits of some of the greatest sith ever lived as his own slaves using their power at his whim.
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SithKoriandr
07.08.2013 , 11:08 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by lironBD View Post
maybe i didn't got the JC story right. From what I got the Shielding technique only other user in known records DIED in the process and the JC was very weakened while using it.

All in all the point of the technique is to defend someone... not making someone stronger in ridiculous ways like the Force Walking.

anyway the emperor was not killed by the JK: wookiepedia: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_Emperor

I read somewhere on the forum that there was a book writen after the swtor time period with the emperor in it and wookiepedia states he dies of natural causes.

and iirc from my SW dark side run the VOICE on voss did fought me as Sel-Makur thingie took over it so we got not only the emperor powers inside that body but also a dark side spirit created from the division in the voss race so actually that makes the wrath even stronger then the JK.

but the whole point of my little competition was because as far as I can remember the SI is the only one which is mentally, physically altered by unique powers to become super being and he took the spirits of some of the greatest sith ever lived as his own slaves using their power at his whim.
Yes. The other died in using it, and the JC faces that same fate if they don't stop the plague creator in time. The JC does. The first one to use the technique died saving as many as he could. However, it is stated that the JC's strength would return once the JC defeated the plague creator.

I have no doubt though, that Sel Mekor didn't have full control of any body the Emperor had control of. But if we go with that, the JK defeats Sel Mekor.

Edit: As for the book and wookiepedia. Can be changed at any time BW chooses really. So I try to stick with just what's in game.
"It's now very common to hear people say, 'I'm rather offended by that.' As if that gives them certain rights. It's actually nothing more...than a whine. 'I find that offensive.' It has no meaning; it has no purpose; it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. 'I am offended by that.' Well, so *********** what." - Stephen Fry