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Are Sith inquisitors or Warriors more powerful?

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Are Sith inquisitors or Warriors more powerful?

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Zelphien
07.06.2013 , 08:32 PM | #11
Here is a nice little debate lore wise.

The Sith Warrior is the Wrath of the Emperor. However, the Emperor himself is an Inquisitor.

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Girdeux
07.06.2013 , 10:05 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by JLazarillo View Post
I don't think "fear" is quite the right description. If the Warrior attempts to throw his weight around at the end of his story, the response of the Council is more to just sort of blow him off. They have no power over him, certainly, but the Warrior himself holds no real political power or influence either, aside from being allowed to pretty much kill who he pleases, and even that, if he overextends himself, is likely to land him in trouble. Kill an unruly Darth here and there, sure, but if the Council members start notice they're being systematically rubbed out...yeah, that's not going to go over well.

When/if the Emperor returns, the dynamic changes, but even then he wields little of his own influence. Without the Emperor, the Wrath is pretty much free to do what he pleases, but only has the name for protection from the machinations of others. With the Emperor, no one will oppose the Wrath's actions, but his freedom to act is considerably more limited.

Basically, the Inquisitor holds political influence, but also responsibility to the system, while the Wrath is simply outside the system. He cannot bind, but he cannot be bound.
The inquistor holds little dark council influence, as mentioned in the novel itself. Within the dark council only a few members hold real power and control. The inquistor isnt apart of that group.

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JLazarillo
07.07.2013 , 12:16 AM | #13
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The inquistor holds little dark council influence, as mentioned in the novel itself. Within the dark council only a few members hold real power and control. The inquistor isnt apart of that group.
The ability to influence other Council members isn't the only sort of political power there is to hold, though. The Inquisitor basically oversees the entirety of the Reclamation Service, and has considerable loyalty among the Moffs, as well.

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Jenzali
07.07.2013 , 02:23 AM | #14
The class concept of the Inquisitor is supposed to be more powerful. However, when you think about it, the Warrior is more powerful and it is due to poor writing in the Inquisitor story.

The Inquisitor is told that he is powerful and clever, however in the story he is incapable of formulating his own plans, even for the simplest of things like reaching a vault or gaining control of a cult.

The Warrior has cunning, initiative, the ability for military leadership, and the respect of the Dark Council.

The combined power of all the Inquisitor's Force ghosts could not kill Thanaton.

The Inquisitor is not powerful enough to even turn his own apprentice to the dark side.

Darth Marr said to the Warrior, "You are acknowledged, Wrath."
Darth Marr said to the Inquisitor, "You will find us more than equal to your threats."

The only thing that the Inquisitor has going for him is that while his ghosts are bound, he can not be killed. However, being unkillable does not make one powerful, it just makes one annoying to get rid of. See: Lord Draahg.
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Pietrastor
07.07.2013 , 06:52 AM | #15
Knight and Warrior and Bioware's pet classes so obviously the story set them up as "most POWAFUL without doing anything!", the Chosen Ones, Gary Stues etc. In that sense, Consular and Inquisitor are obviously not as powerful and need to actively purse unusual methods/techniques to overcome the obstacles. Not that I mind it, Knight and Warrior don't appeal to me.

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jankiel
07.07.2013 , 02:38 PM | #16
Correct me if im worng but didnt the Dark Council crap their pants before the guy who was the previous Wrath?

The most logical explanation i'd say is that in terms of individual power and combat skills the warrior is number one. But he lacks the whole rest. Reclamation service, Moffs with battleships and troops, and the whole power base.

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Elrithis
07.07.2013 , 03:18 PM | #17
I would have said its all kind of relative. In a straight up lightsaber fight the Wrath is clearly the more powerful. But the whole point of the Inquisitor is that they would never let it get to that point. Why fight someone on their own ground if they can beat you.

Isn't it far more sensible to use the power that the Inquisitor wields with the Moffs/Navy (I.e. the Silencer). Ambush the Wrath in Deep space using your own private battle fleet (something the wrath can never have access to due to his lack of political and military ties) and eliminate the threat without ever having to go anywhere near him. All those vaunted lightsaber skills and force mastery is nothing staring down the cannons of several Imperial Dreadnaughts.

Threat eliminated and in in the traditional style of a true Sith Lord you didn't have to go anywhere near your target or risk anything

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jankiel
07.07.2013 , 03:36 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Elrithis View Post
I would have said its all kind of relative. In a straight up lightsaber fight the Wrath is clearly the more powerful. But the whole point of the Inquisitor is that they would never let it get to that point. Why fight someone on their own ground if they can beat you.

Isn't it far more sensible to use the power that the Inquisitor wields with the Moffs/Navy (I.e. the Silencer). Ambush the Wrath in Deep space using your own private battle fleet (something the wrath can never have access to due to his lack of political and military ties) and eliminate the threat without ever having to go anywhere near him. All those vaunted lightsaber skills and force mastery is nothing staring down the cannons of several Imperial Dreadnaughts.

Threat eliminated and in in the traditional style of a true Sith Lord you didn't have to go anywhere near your target or risk anything
That said, the Wrath could do another Baras. Get other members of the DC to bring down the SI with him. He's proven himself more then able to take down larger foes.

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Elrithis
07.07.2013 , 04:24 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by jankiel View Post
That said, the Wrath could do another Baras. Get other members of the DC to bring down the SI with him. He's proven himself more then able to take down larger foes.
I do see exactly where your coming from with that but I believe that Dark Council would choose not to interfere and would probably ignore any requests from the Wrath for help (or be very very slow in delivering any). They would see that as weakness on the Wraths part to require their services, and from their own standpoint the elimination of the Wrath is a good political and tactical move to consolidate their own power.

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SithKoriandr
07.07.2013 , 10:13 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Jenzali View Post
The class concept of the Inquisitor is supposed to be more powerful. However, when you think about it, the Warrior is more powerful and it is due to poor writing in the Inquisitor story.

The Inquisitor is told that he is powerful and clever, however in the story he is incapable of formulating his own plans, even for the simplest of things like reaching a vault or gaining control of a cult.
Limit of MMO storytelling.

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The Warrior has cunning, initiative, the ability for military leadership, and the respect of the Dark Council.
Inquisitor has all that but the lack of respect. I take that more as underestimating on the Dark Council's part. Warrior has the Emperor's backing. Inquisitor does not. Also Warrior doesn't appear to have desire for being on the Dark Council, and only gets the Darth title as an off-screen throw a bone to the Warrior players.

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The combined power of all the Inquisitor's Force ghosts could not kill Thanaton.
Inquisitor beat Thanaton at the end. Killing stroke was just interrupted and stolen (should be the first of the Dark Council the Inquisitor takes out )

[quote]The Inquisitor is not powerful enough to even turn his own apprentice to the dark side.[/quote[

Again, bad writing. Only one class even gets the option of deciding a companions alignment.

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Darth Marr said to the Warrior, "You are acknowledged, Wrath."
Darth Marr said to the Inquisitor, "You will find us more than equal to your threats."
Back to the Council underestimating the Inquisitor, the ex-slave. Also notice the Inquisitor isn't there to look the Warrior in the eye and say, "You think so, huh?" and show the Wrath just who's the more powerful Sith.

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The only thing that the Inquisitor has going for him is that while his ghosts are bound, he can not be killed. However, being unkillable does not make one powerful, it just makes one annoying to get rid of. See: Lord Draahg.
Binding the ghosts wasn't easy. You can force them all to stay, except for one who's only able to back out due to a clause in it's binding.
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