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Vanguard/Powertech Rebalancing?

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Vanguard/Powertech Rebalancing?
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Brunner_Venda
07.13.2013 , 10:27 AM | #81
Lets just be patient, and ask Amber (nice and politely!) to please bring powertech and vanguard concerns to the combat team.

Come one guys, don't be jerks and she might help us.

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Azarai
07.13.2013 , 11:32 AM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by Brunner_Venda View Post
Lets just be patient, and ask Amber (nice and politely!) to please bring powertech and vanguard concerns to the combat team.

Come one guys, don't be jerks and she might help us.
Ask mercs/mandos DPS what asking nicely in the forums get you. It's pretty obvious when even other classes come onto the forums and agree that the class is in a pathetic place DPS-wise that something should be done, and not MONTHS of having to deal with it. Class balance patches by a competent PvP team would be at the very least monthly, even if it's just tweaking things such as numbers/damage or even a swap in skills in the trees. More dramatic changes should take some time but for god's sake look how long we had to deal with bubble pops as a community. That's why I have little faith in the PvP development team because it takes an absurd amount of time for them to even tweak things, let alone fix broken specs. GL to you VG's/PT's, nerfing the hell out of you is why we have such retarded TTK when there's more than 1 healer and a tank in WZ's now b/c too much of the burst DPS has been gutted.
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foxmob
07.13.2013 , 11:51 AM | #83
lol yeah. bubble stun was just...wow. what were they thinking?
meh
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TL;DR Bolster is meant to help entry level players, ranked PvP is not entry level PvP.

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Motoeric
07.13.2013 , 03:16 PM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by Capt_Beers View Post
Pyro PT:

Incendiary Missile > Explosive dart > TD > Rail Shot > Rocket Punch/flame Burst for Rail Shot Proc until ED/TD are off CD

Arsenal Merc:

Tracer > Exploive Dart > Rail Shot > HSM > tracer unitl proc for Unload until Rail Shot/HSM are off CD

You are right so different
so wrong...
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foxmob
07.13.2013 , 03:19 PM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by Motoeric View Post
so wrong...
I think the point, which is accurate, is that both specs spam the same one ability until it procs the other one ability ad nauseum.
meh
Quote: Originally Posted by Jadescythe View Post
TL;DR Bolster is meant to help entry level players, ranked PvP is not entry level PvP.

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TheRampage
07.13.2013 , 03:45 PM | #86
Just did a wz with 150 healers. Had over 1 mil damage. Bigest hitt - 5000 and something. 90% conqueror gear, with proper mods.

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MarkXXIV
07.13.2013 , 04:09 PM | #87
Powertech pyro isn't the only tree they need to fix. Buff carnage,annihilation,vengeance,immortal, merc pyro, madness, bodyguard,concealment,operative lethality, deception,(not sure on darkness). Nerf all of sniper's tree, operative healer and healer in general, and the rage tree.
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Brunner_Venda
07.13.2013 , 05:03 PM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by MarkXXIV View Post
Powertech pyro isn't the only tree they need to fix. Buff carnage,annihilation,vengeance,immortal, merc pyro, madness, bodyguard,concealment,operative lethality, deception,(not sure on darkness). Nerf all of sniper's tree, operative healer and healer in general, and the rage tree.
I'm not saying that other classes don't need a boost.

We're just bringing attention to ours. PT has three specs. None of them are welcome on a ranked team except for maybe a tank. - IF your guild decides to be nice or a jugg isn't available.

PS: This isn't a nerf anyone thread. I just want our class fixed.

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foxmob
07.13.2013 , 05:22 PM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by Brunner_Venda View Post
I'm not saying that other classes don't need a boost.

We're just bringing attention to ours. PT has three specs. None of them are welcome on a ranked team except for maybe a tank. - IF your guild decides to be nice or a jugg isn't available.

PS: This isn't a nerf anyone thread. I just want our class fixed.
yeah! except nerf snipers and op heal resource regen.
meh
Quote: Originally Posted by Jadescythe View Post
TL;DR Bolster is meant to help entry level players, ranked PvP is not entry level PvP.

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kweassa
07.13.2013 , 05:30 PM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by Mozivicus View Post
EXACTLY!!!

That's the entire point, compared to other classes vanguards/PTs hit like wet noodles. I'll say it now, and I'll say it until we regularly get 8-10k hits (like every other well geared AC), we need a buff to our damage and burst damage.
Bullshi*.

Of the four advanced classes that utilize ranged attacks as their main mode of damage, PT/Vanguards have the highest survivability and utility. Among the three other ranged classes, Sorc/Sages and Sniper/Slingers have a clear edge over PT/Vanguards in terms of pure damage, but the former is the weakest in terms of survival by fat, the latter gives up all mobility and needs to become a biological turret to do so.... and as for the rest two, Merc/Commandos have been complaining about their shaky and unstable mode of damage dealing for ages.

Among them, only the Sniper class can more or less gain 8~10k hits under right conditions, and even TK/Lightning sage/sorcs can't really do that, since their mode of damage is from continuous cycling of 4k~5k attacks.

If we bring in the other melee classes, Assasin/Shadows SOMETIMES get 8~10k hits but not as often as you might think, and the only case where anyone dishes out hits at 8k at regular intervals are Focus/Rage smash/sweepers, only available to two of the 8 advanced classes.. and being the one-trick pony is by itself an internal penalty to all of them, thriving in well performing teams, but just deadweight in even the slightest shaky teams.

Besides, as a general rule of thumb, melees are always ahead of ranged classes in terms of burst damage because as part of internal balancing, giving mega-bursts to ranged classes that has reliable level of defenses as well is the surest way of making an OP class -- which is exactly what happened in the past with Pyros.
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