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IDEA: Create Server For Highly Tuned Operations

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IDEA: Create Server For Highly Tuned Operations

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odawgg
06.26.2013 , 05:20 PM | #1
So after making this thread I realized a whole new server would be an unreasonable request, so i'm switching gears....I am now trying to open up discussion for a possible new 'supercharged' mode that would require you to defeat NiM several times before you were geared enough to complete it. Or maybe even you have to complete the "survived past last boss" achievement before you can unlock it...I'm liking that idea. Any thoughts peeps?

The reason I'm thinking of something like this is cuz it appears that 1 day clears of new operations from top guilds will start becoming a trend (aside from 'overtuned' DG Council that was nerfed yesterday)....I understand why it's that way, it's a business decision...giving everyone at least the opportunity to go in and clear the games hardest content, not just the "1%." I'm just trying to find a happy medium, maybe this or some other idea you all come up with will be the answer!

Just to be clear, I'm hoping this thread doesn't bring out the trolls or angry name calling, but more as inspiration to come up with a compromise to the fact that many hardcore raiders would like something more challenging to strive for in between new content releases.

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dipstik
06.26.2013 , 05:25 PM | #2
i think they could pull something off if they just buffed everything like they did with ev and kp. i dont think i woudl feel comfortable with BW taking my money and using to make content for the top 1%. now that they have closed down so many servers, i think they could put a new one up without too much fuss. the PTS shows that they have the server isolation tech to keep stuff seperate, but that also requires seperate installs of the game, so you 1%'ers might need to create a 3rd install (PTS, live and elite)

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odawgg
06.26.2013 , 05:32 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by dipstik View Post
i think they could pull something off if they just buffed everything like they did with ev and kp. i dont think i woudl feel comfortable with BW taking my money and using to make content for the top 1%. now that they have closed down so many servers, i think they could put a new one up without too much fuss. the PTS shows that they have the server isolation tech to keep stuff seperate, but that also requires seperate installs of the game, so you 1%'ers might need to create a 3rd install (PTS, live and elite)
Yeah i hear ya there, maybe then just make a "supercharged" mode instead of a new server that just buffs everything a bit...without adding any new tiers of gear

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dscount
06.26.2013 , 06:02 PM | #4
OR.. maybe they should just use some of the features already built in differently.

Rework the LOOT selection option to also TUNE up the instance you are attempting. Right now I think it's related to how looting works at certain levels (Green, Artifact, etc). REWORK it instead..

For example:
  • Pick the 2nd Setting and you get 2% HP BUFF on all the content and 5% more loot + 1 extra ITEM end boss.
  • Pick the 3rd Setting 3% HP BUFF or whatever is easy to scale and 10% more loot +1 random ITEM per boss.
  • Pick TOP Setting 5% HP BUFF (Or whatever) and 25% more loot + extra Set Bonus gear like in 16 man.
Like NiM TFB on highest loot setting (Legendary I think?) would give 2 Bracers on first boss, 2 randoms and 25% more cash and other goodies. (Ultimate Comm's, Elite Comm's, etc).

Just an idea... might help with progression guild runs, but just a band-aid solution that is more in line with the DG fight we just saw pre-nerf.
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akabane_k
06.26.2013 , 06:04 PM | #5
What would be ideal is to start out having nightmare modes with all the bosses around dread guard level, and then a couple months later nerfing the bosses so less hardcore raiders could clear content.

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TrillOG-
06.26.2013 , 06:13 PM | #6
What's funny is you say one day clears are going to become a trend..and you request a new mode on top of nightmare which should already be what you ask for. When people couldnt clear the DG the first day they whined it to nerf. I know you arent one of those people from what I've seen, but the fact of the matter is a 4th mode sounds absolutely ridiculous. NiM just can't be what it should because of all the babies out there who whine how it is "mathematically impossible" when guilds are PROGRESSING further and further. The OPs guild, and several others proved that you are all complete.morons.
The guy above me has the right idea. My phone makes it impossible to type correctly so sorry if anything is a mess.

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odawgg
06.26.2013 , 06:17 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by TrillOG- View Post
What's funny is you say one day clears are going to become a trend..and you request a new mode on top of nightmare which should already be what you ask for. When people couldnt clear the DG the first day they whined it to nerf. I know you arent one of those people from what I've seen, but the fact of the matter is a 4th mode sounds absolutely ridiculous. NiM just can't be what it should because of all the babies out there who whine how it is "mathematically impossible" when guilds are PROGRESSING further and further. The OPs guild, and several others proved that you are all complete morons.
And I understand ur anger...believe me I do...I however would like to not make this a thread, like so many others already since TFB NiM came out...that bashes BW for catering to QQ'ers etc etc. I'm trying to inspire people to think of ideas that maybe BW could use as a compromise. But thank you for sharing your thoughts!

There are many of us that wish NiMs present a greater challenge, that probably isn't going to happen so let's see if there's something that CAN happen.

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DarkLordKreytus
06.26.2013 , 07:21 PM | #8
Honestly, I don't see this happening, from what I see there would only be two options with this tuning of operations,

either a) harder operation has the same loot as easier, only difference is tougher to down bosses, this will take away motivation to do the tougher content from most raiding groups

or b) harder operation has better loot and the casual raiding groups whine about fights being too difficult because they feel like they deserve just as good loot as the 'elite' groups.

Your suggestion would likely only work on a server specifically designated for harder operations and with the amount of work that Bioware needs to put into fixing many aspects of the game, I for one would be against setting up another server for the 1% that would take up more of their time when there are 100's of more important things (imo) to work on.

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Gyronamics
06.27.2013 , 11:44 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkLordKreytus View Post
Honestly, I don't see this happening, from what I see there would only be two options with this tuning of operations,

either a) harder operation has the same loot as easier, only difference is tougher to down bosses, this will take away motivation to do the tougher content from most raiding groups

or b) harder operation has better loot and the casual raiding groups whine about fights being too difficult because they feel like they deserve just as good loot as the 'elite' groups.

Your suggestion would likely only work on a server specifically designated for harder operations and with the amount of work that Bioware needs to put into fixing many aspects of the game, I for one would be against setting up another server for the 1% that would take up more of their time when there are 100's of more important things (imo) to work on.
1%?

Number sounds way high if you're thinking of number of players and guilds who have downed DG.
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dipstik
06.27.2013 , 11:52 AM | #10
figure of speech