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Character Transfer - Pointless

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Andryah
06.25.2013 , 09:36 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by ClamTheDuckDown View Post
Really? Didn't you call me a whiner pretending to give BW feedback while actually demanding free stuff on another thread about character transfer?
I did not call you a whiner.. I pointed out you were stating that you were providing feedback, but really were just making personal demands... a point which you actually agreed to after I pointed it out in your thread.

Quote: Originally Posted by ClamTheDuckDown View Post
It's not a coincidence when so many people call you out on this.
Depends on how one defines coincidence. If you define it as tin-foil laced ad hominem attacks... then it's coincidence. Personally I just find it amusing that people resort to personal attacks rather then discuss my points with me directly. It's a sign of weakness of position IMO.
sayonara SWTOR. I will miss the game, I will miss many players, I will NOT miss being lied to and deceived. I will not miss rookie level mistakes of epic proportions.

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ChuangTzu
06.25.2013 , 09:36 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Moonshadow View Post
Actually, when people call her an EA employee, that usually means that Andryah has kicked their butts with logic and a superior understanding of how the gaming world works, but rather than try to debate further, they will simply call her a shill and think that they are the victor.

But to everyone else, we know that person's argument failed hard.
Except she has not. The tech exists, she is wrong. If she were a BW employee she would know that.
"Words are for conveying ideas, but when the ideas are understood, you forget the words. How I would love to talk to someone who's forgotten all the words!" Chuang Tzu

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ClamTheDuckDown
06.25.2013 , 09:37 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Context is important when making such claims.

In context.. he was saying that the technological abilities exist. Well DERP!

The problem is.. you use the term "tech" as you base reason for everything. You know what... the code, and communications interconnections between server farms is also tech and is also required for each connection point. And of course one way connections are simpler then bilateral many point connections.

Anyone with even limited understanding of how communications works in the internet knows all of this.
You never give up, do you? You're 100% wrong on the guesstimate. We even have proof from bioware using the exact same logic about APAC and you're still denying and now deflecting it with an argument on semantics. This is getting so silly that it's hilarious.

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ChuangTzu
06.25.2013 , 09:37 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
I did not call you a whiner.. I pointed out you were stating that you were providing feedback, but really were just making personal demands... a point which you actually agreed to after I pointed it out in your thread.



Depends on how one defines coincidence. If you define it as tin-foil laced ad hominem attacks... then it's coincidence. Personally I just find it amusing that people resort to personal attacks rather then discuss my points with me directly. It's a sign of weakness of position IMO.
Yet you have been proved wrong.
"Words are for conveying ideas, but when the ideas are understood, you forget the words. How I would love to talk to someone who's forgotten all the words!" Chuang Tzu

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Darth_Moonshadow
06.25.2013 , 09:37 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by ClamTheDuckDown View Post
I think many people use the phrase "Are you en employee of company X" as a sarcastic rhetoric to point out a fanboy. However, we're way off-topic here. I think the link provided above pretty much ended this thread.
Oh the thread is not over. Just because the tech exists doesn't mean they can just use it now, which is what I think Andryah is getting at.

Plus, when someone starts with this idiotic fanboi nonsense, the mud slinging don't end until everyone gets bored and moves on to the next thread and repeat the cycle.
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And I love Darth Moonshadow's responses.
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Andryah
06.25.2013 , 09:41 PM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by ClamTheDuckDown View Post
I think many people use the phrase "Are you en employee of company X" as a sarcastic rhetoric to point out a fanboy. However, we're way off-topic here. I think the link provided above pretty much ended this thread.
The link proved two things... both of which I agree with:

1) they want to do it.. which means it will come

2) if it were ready today... it would be available today. Clearly it's not.. because there is still more work ("tech" for my dear CT) to be deployed before EU <--> NA goes live for players.

Think about it pal... if it was actually ready to go live... why would it not be in the patch with localized server to server transfer? Answer that please. No wait.. I'll answer it for you.... because there is still work to be done before it's ready.
sayonara SWTOR. I will miss the game, I will miss many players, I will NOT miss being lied to and deceived. I will not miss rookie level mistakes of epic proportions.

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Andryah
06.25.2013 , 09:41 PM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Moonshadow View Post
Oh the thread is not over. Just because the tech exists doesn't mean they can just use it now, which is what I think Andryah is getting at.
Exactly.
sayonara SWTOR. I will miss the game, I will miss many players, I will NOT miss being lied to and deceived. I will not miss rookie level mistakes of epic proportions.

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Andryah
06.25.2013 , 09:43 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by ChuangTzu View Post
Yet you have been proved wrong.
specious nonsense.

But hey.. you keep on trying.

Please.. by all means... explain why if it's ready it's not live in the patch. What possible objective reason could they have for not making EU <---> NA available as soon as it's ready? I'll wait for your reply, this should be interesting.
sayonara SWTOR. I will miss the game, I will miss many players, I will NOT miss being lied to and deceived. I will not miss rookie level mistakes of epic proportions.

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ClamTheDuckDown
06.25.2013 , 09:51 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
.... because there is still work to be done before it's ready.
Yeah, thanks captain obvious (Before you flag me with ad hominem, I'm just being funny... like you)

Your original answer for OP's question was that they are not here because it's not easy to do inter-continental transfer, while CT pointed out that Bioware has done server transfer several times before (from Production to Test server, from West Cost to east Coast, from APAC to US...and even mass server transfer during the merging). So it's should be relatively easy for Bioware right now. I think we all read OP question as why is it taking this long to do a server transfer yet they are still not fully functional.

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Andryah
06.25.2013 , 09:59 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by ClamTheDuckDown View Post
Yeah, thanks captain obvious (Before you flag me with ad hominem, I'm just being funny... like you)
Thank you for finally agreeing with reason.

Quote: Originally Posted by ClamTheDuckDown View Post
Your original answer for OP's question was that they are not here because it's not easy to do inter-continental transfer, while CT pointed out that Bioware has done server transfer several times before (from Production to Test server, from West Cost to east Coast, from APAC to US...and even mass server transfer during the merging). So it's should be relatively easy for Bioware right now. I think we all read OP question as why is it taking this long to do a server transfer yet they are still not fully functional.
No, my original point to the OP was that it requires work to interconnect server farms on opposite sides of the world for bidirectional database transfer on demand. Significantly more work then interconnecting local servers within a farm. Derp! A point you now agree upon I gather.

All CT pointed out is that he thinks once you wire up server A to B that that magically means server B is wired to C, and X to Z etc. He's wrong... for reasons already covered in this thread.

Now... I know that you are bent that someone would actually debate a topic with you in patient and reasoned manner when what you want is sympathy... but get used to it if you are going to post topic content that deserves counter point discussion in a public general forum.
sayonara SWTOR. I will miss the game, I will miss many players, I will NOT miss being lied to and deceived. I will not miss rookie level mistakes of epic proportions.