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Dread Guard nerf - Catering to the Casual


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JDotter
07.27.2013 , 05:21 AM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by mastirkal View Post
That was Krazy_karl from the grey order on the shadowlands. Not from DnT.
No it was DnT, well members of DnT not all of DnT.

Anyhow its about the money at the end of the day bioware is a business and to stay afloat you need to make money.

I wish all content was tuned to make people cry and people didn't clear it for weeks.

I believe only 5 8M guilds have killed NM styrak and I believe severity is only 16 which unfortunately will lead to a nerf. Hopefully I'll get to take being the only sorc dps (on 8) to kill it prior to a nerf with me once I'm done with swtor.

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Ansalem
07.27.2013 , 08:25 AM | #112
Quote: Originally Posted by mastirkal View Post
DnT are going to wildstar it seems. They will probably be around until it comes out, and more power to them. The raiding scene seems pretty epic as long as it doesn't trip on it's own dick or go the direction of casual raiding.
lol DnT doesn't just play 1 game you realize right? We are represented in WOW,GW2,SWTOR as well as other games. Also look for our guild in the new final fantasy mmo.

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Asavrede
07.27.2013 , 08:35 AM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by Airwolfe View Post
This is Nightmare mode. This fight has been cleared by multiple guilds now - why nerf it? This decision simply robs the ability to compete for other guilds who still want challenge.
Because the fight was considerably harder than all the other fights in the operation. That's obviously not supposed to be the case.

Really, it's not rocket science.

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Atlanis
07.27.2013 , 05:59 PM | #114
Quote: Originally Posted by veyl View Post
Raiding in this game at its highest difficulty has always been at a casual level to complete it in under a month.

I don't see how anything in the future will be different.
True Dreadtoot 10 Stack + Bonusboss Asation HC (Original Version), were downed in under a month....not. More like several Month, I would like more Content like that. Somethin like, there are these super cool bosseencounters, but we won´t tell you how to trigger them.

I personally would like more 24 Man encounters in the game Maybe something like Endor were you need 3 8 Mann Raidgroups at different positions fighting there way through to the central room were they meet to encounter the ultimate challenge. I am getting ahead of this thread^^

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Ansalem
07.27.2013 , 06:37 PM | #115
Quote: Originally Posted by Atlanis View Post
True Dreadtoot 10 Stack + Bonusboss Asation HC (Original Version), were downed in under a month....not. More like several Month, I would like more Content like that. Somethin like, there are these super cool bosseencounters, but we won´t tell you how to trigger them.

I personally would like more 24 Man encounters in the game Maybe something like Endor were you need 3 8 Mann Raidgroups at different positions fighting there way through to the central room were they meet to encounter the ultimate challenge. I am getting ahead of this thread^^
Don't worry that's what Wildstar is for:P

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Airwolfe
07.28.2013 , 05:00 PM | #116
Quote: Originally Posted by Asavrede View Post
Because the fight was considerably harder than all the other fights in the operation. That's obviously not supposed to be the case.

Really, it's not rocket science.
Before you denigrate the thread with a condescending tone, you may want to read prior discussion.
This was covered - other fights should have been equivalent or greater difficulty.
Airwolfe - Marauder <Chosen>

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Ansalem
07.29.2013 , 10:49 PM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by Airwolfe View Post
'The enrage timer for The Dread Guard has been increased by 30 seconds in Hard and Nightmare Modes.'

Nice to see Bioware caving to the casuals (Attn, this pro-nerf thread: http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...76#post6425376 - started by Death and Taxes, in which several members of this guild and others declare the fight impossible, to be proven wrong a few days later).

Not really.

This is Nightmare mode. This fight has been cleared by multiple guilds now - why nerf it? This decision simply robs the ability to compete for other guilds who still want challenge.

This speaks poorly to Bioware's intent to provide challenging content, in my opinion.
Will future content be continually nerfed to the point of Nightmare mode being 'everyone and their mother can clear it in a day-mode'?
Seems someone forgot about their original post to start this thread. Stop playing the holier than thou game.

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AshlaBoga
07.29.2013 , 10:54 PM | #118
Quote: Originally Posted by Asavrede View Post
Because the fight was considerably harder than all the other fights in the operation. That's obviously not supposed to be the case.

Really, it's not rocket science.
Why not just buff the other 4?
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Ansalem
07.29.2013 , 11:00 PM | #119
Quote: Originally Posted by AshlaBoga View Post
Why not just buff the other 4?
I think BW would have to answer that but the only thing they have demonstrated is the desire to change it and make it slightly easier. I guess their metrics showed them more wipes than they cared to see on the fight. Seems they are pleased with the other fights as they havent received any changes though they could use a little buffing.

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Ansalem
07.30.2013 , 12:37 PM | #120
was referring to her condescending tone and insulting nature of the entire thread. No room for the holier than thou attitude. And aerro by select few I guess you mean everyone that did it even the people that put in the 20+ hours to down it before the initial change who admitted it was overtuned. I dont think the big nerf with lowering hps and dmg was needed but I guess BW looked at the metrics breakdown of how many wipes were occuring on the boss and thought it would be a good idea to bring it down a notch. Maybe you should think before you speak?:P

GL on thrasher and terror I hope you get them one day:P

PS I'd also like to point out that the OP is incorrect. No one beat the enrage timer pre first change. I win again!