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Can we stop acting like children?

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Can we stop acting like children?

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zzoorrzz
06.21.2013 , 01:11 PM | #61
My friendly advice is - don't tell people to spacebar. They will do it anyway if they want to. Personally I don't like taking orders from strangers and when I see somebody say spacebar, or even repeat it, I'm kinda tempted to not spacebar.

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gunnerjoe
06.21.2013 , 01:11 PM | #62
Someone just said it perfectly. Saying "Spacebar" is very common. Its just like saying "K" for ok, "np" for no problem and "thx" for saying thanks. Did I mean to say "could you guys please spacebar?" Yes I did, however, I didn't type it, and just said "spacebar." I acknowledged this and asked if we could move on however instead of being an adult about it, the other people in my group ran backwards and kicked me.

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OddballEasyEight
06.21.2013 , 01:12 PM | #63
Actually, even just putting a questionmark after spacebar makes it a much less aggressive thing.

Spacebar?
Sounds so much better than:
Spacebar.

One is a question, the other is an order (or at least a somewhat pushy suggestion).
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Elyxin
06.21.2013 , 01:14 PM | #64
Sounds like there were a few things going on OP.

One, you mis-communicated your intentions due to not saying it well. "spacebar" is a bit rifling to most, extremely offensive to some. "is everyone comfortable with Spacing through the cutscenes?" is more precise, and conveys respect (as many of the examples given so far).

Two, the group responded to your miscommunication immaturely. in most runs I've done, silence is usually the answer you get. I read this and think OK, guess i have some downtime to refresh my drink, surf the net, let the dog out, whatever. Or i just watch the scene (for my favorite parts).

Both are individual issues that need to be addresses separately. one does not justify the other. On your part, just be a bit more communicative. say please and thanks and smile and you will get a much more positive response. if they decide to be snide and kick you at that point, you can be comfortable knowing that you did what you could to be respectful.

In all honesty, your second communication conveying that you meant no disrespect would have been good enough for me. But that burden is on them. My suggestion was only to convey the idea that it very well could have been avoided in the first place with a slightly different initial request. that's all.

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Andryah
06.21.2013 , 01:16 PM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
Actually, even just putting a questionmark after spacebar makes it a much less aggressive thing.

Spacebar?
Sounds so much better than:
Spacebar.

One is a question, the other is an order (or at least a somewhat pushy suggestion).
Agreed.

Spacebar [can be read as a demand or an instruction] Most people would likely read it as an instruction and if in capital letters.. an actual order.

Spacebar? [invites a confirmation or discussion].

and if you go with:

Spacebar!! [you should just vote-kick yourself and save them the trouble IMO. ]
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gunnerjoe
06.21.2013 , 01:16 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Elyxin View Post
Sounds like there were a few things going on OP.

One, you mis-communicated your intentions due to not saying it well. "spacebar" is a bit rifling to most, extremely offensive to some. "is everyone comfortable with Spacing through the cutscenes?" is more precise, and conveys respect (as many of the examples given so far).

Two, the group responded to your miscommunication immaturely. in most runs I've done, silence is usually the answer you get. I read this and think OK, guess i have some downtime to refresh my drink, surf the net, let the dog out, whatever. Or i just watch the scene (for my favorite parts).

Both are individual issues that need to be addresses separately. one does not justify the other. On your part, just be a bit more communicative. say please and thanks and smile and you will get a much more positive response. if they decide to be snide and kick you at that point, you can be comfortable knowing that you did what you could to be respectful.

In all honesty, your second communication conveying that you meant no disrespect would have been good enough for me. But that burden is on them. My suggestion was only to convey the idea that it very well could have been avoided in the first place with a slightly different initial request. that's all.
Agreed.

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Bomyne
06.21.2013 , 01:17 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by gunnerjoe View Post
Someone just said it perfectly. Saying "Spacebar" is very common. Its just like saying "K" for ok, "np" for no problem and "thx" for saying thanks. Did I mean to say "could you guys please spacebar?" Yes I did, however, I didn't type it, and just said "spacebar." I acknowledged this and asked if we could move on however instead of being an adult about it, the other people in my group ran backwards and kicked me.
Did you mean "Can we just spacebar please?" or did you mean "You better spacebar you ignorant noobs, you are wasting my time and I don't have time to deal with the likes of you. My time is far more important and you are worthless."?

You might have meant the first one, but can you see how "Spacebar." Can be seen as the second one?

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MSchuyler
06.21.2013 , 01:25 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Bomyne View Post
To some people, spacebaring a cutscene is like cutting all the dialogue out of Star Wars: A New Hope. What's the point without the cutscene?
Reminds me of the theater in Singapore that decided the Sound of Music was too long, so they cut out all the songs.

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DarthTHC
06.21.2013 , 01:26 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by Bomyne View Post
To some people, spacebaring a cutscene is like cutting all the dialogue out of Star Wars: A New Hope. What's the point without the cutscene?

And to be honest, I don't blame them. If I ever run Esseless (Sp), I will not ever spacebar it as I really enjoy that instance, heroic or not.

Next time, ask politely before the run starts what is going to happen. If they refuse to spacebar it and you want to, that'll mean you can easily leave the group. Or you can sit there and enjoy the cutscene with them.
I don't watch ANH once a day or even once a week. I do run HM flashpoints once a day. More power to you, I guess, if you can see the same exact scene over and over and over again every day and not want to claw your eyes and ears out.

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Bomyne
06.21.2013 , 01:30 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
I don't watch ANH once a day or even once a week. I do run HM flashpoints once a day. More power to you, I guess, if you can see the same exact scene over and over and over again every day and not want to claw your eyes and ears out.
Some do watch ANH everyday.

Is it wrong that those that enjoy it want to watch it everytime?