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Sohaim
06.18.2013 , 11:37 AM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Dude... they already stated that these trivial stand alones are as far as they will go via CM.

Chicken LIttle: The sky is falling... the sky is falling.
Reality: The sky is not falling

Sohaim: see they selling bigger story stuff to the market....see they selling bigger story stuff to the market
Reaity: They already declared they are not going to
really, you just took one my phrases and edited to suit your argument without a proper quote? haha that must be a joke right, just give up, youre running in circles, those cutscenes are the same as all companions quests, do we need them to progress in game? No. Are they lore only?Yes. Are they fluflf?NO!, and on that phrase i typed to you that instead of provide helpfull feedback you do rather wait and complain to other who move to offer information, those small cutscenes are the same as companions, so again i ask, is it fine if next one is Companions quests? because it is lore and it is small chains...

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Mike_Bluesky
06.18.2013 , 11:37 AM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Aries_cz View Post
Sadly, by then it will be to late. The overreaction the cubes provoked is to stop what you say (CM-only full fledged quests) from becoming reality
^ This. This is what this whole discussion in about. And fluffy lore (really can't comprehend this) or other arguments won't change this.
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Feztonio
06.18.2013 , 11:41 AM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Ashenti View Post
I think this was understood and didn't really require further explanation.
What does need further clarification is just waht you define as exploitative behaviour here.

My example
I obtained all 4 cubes, wit the primary objective of using them to obtain a nice credit bonus on any alts I created.
I did not create any new alts just to get the credits. I did run through my existing characters (all who where of a level to go to Nar Shaddaa and quest)
I planned on using these on any further characters i produced in the same manner (but, did not plan to make alts just to get the credits)
Is this exploitative?
I cannot see how it is as its just using the items in the manner which they are designed.

And, a further question
As I purchased packs just to obtained these, and spent cc on unlocks to use them across my account. Will there be refund/compensation as I cannot now use them in the intended way?
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Andryah
06.18.2013 , 11:41 AM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Aries_cz View Post
Sadly, by then it will be to late. The overreaction the cubes provoked is to stop what you say (CM-only full fledged quests) from becoming reality
If they put a pretzel in the cartel packs.. people would over-react and declare that they are taking over real life super markets.

I tip my hat to you for correctly characterizing the forum behavior as "overreaction".

Forum hyperbole and overreaction is what I am most likely to engage in discussion in the forums here. I guess I have a soft spot for trying to assist in treating lunacy. And it's like a predictable tide in the forum. It ebbs and flows. A few weeks ago it was Dyes. Currently it's "OMG they putting story in the CM nao!!" Next week it will probably be "OMG they putting pink bunny slippers in the CM! It should be a world drop! oh nooz!!!"
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Sohaim
06.18.2013 , 11:41 AM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Where did I say this?

You are trying way too hard here MB.
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
As far as I am concerned, Lore that adds nothing to the progression of the game, or playable content IS FLUFF.

Lore that is integral to your progression of your character through the game (such as your class story) is not fluff, any more then gear with stats on it (so you can fight effectively) is fluff.

Lore that is a stand alone disintegral element obtained by random chance off the CM and is in no way integrated into a character story arc, leads to special mission chains and rewards, or is required to progress a character through the game IS FLUFF, just as CM armor skins that look nifty by offer nothing other then niftiness is fluff.
you said that in Page 6 right on this quote, where you claimed that lore that is integral progress your game and even pointed out Class story are.

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Fluffyburrito
06.18.2013 , 11:43 AM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Hey folks,

As some of you have already guessed, we made this change to address exploitive behavior. Players were able to create new characters, and with some craftiness, fairly quickly and repeatedly acquire the Credit Booms from the Encrypted Data Cubes.

Hope that explains the decision. Thanks!

-eric
Since you have to get past the capital planet in order to obtain a ship, how "quickly" did this work?

Literally the only possible thing I can think of is somehow teleporting after the starter planet, which by itself takes an hour and a half.

You can do some dailies during the same time period and earn just as much money, so I really question how quickly it could actually be exploited.

Your post doesn't really explain anything at all, especially for level 55s who have no need of a major experience boost.

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Sohaim
06.18.2013 , 11:45 AM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
If they put a pretzel in the cartel packs.. people would over-react and declare that they are taking over real life super markets.

I tip my hat to you for correctly characterizing the forum behavior as "overreaction".

Forum hyperbole and overreaction is what I am most likely to engage in discussion in the forums here. I guess I have a soft spot for trying to assist in treating lunacy. And it's like a predictable tide in the forum. It ebbs and flows. A few weeks ago it was Dyes. Currently it's "OMG they putting story in the CM nao!!" Next week it will probably be "OMG they putting pink bunny slippers in the CM! It should be a world drop! oh nooz!!!"
i am sorry if did not understand this Properly(since english is not my first language), but are you even insuniating that we who are supposed to be "overreacting" are lunatics? do you KNOW the meaning of that world to dare and compare to this so called forum "behavior"? is that supposed to be a stealth insult andryah?

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Andryah
06.18.2013 , 11:46 AM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by Sohaim View Post
you said that in Page 6 right on this quote, where you claimed that lore that is integral progress your game and even pointed out Class story are.
OIC. Actually, let me be more precise for you:

1) there is lore that is contained in the actual integral progression elements of the game (class story, planet mission, etc)

2) there is lore that is contained in disintegral, standalone, not required in any way to progress in the game (ie: the data-cubes)

Item 1 is NOT FLUFF because it adds both real and meaningful game progression + lore elements.
Item 2 is FLUFF because the only thing it adds for the player is some lore.

Please Note: The lore aspects of both 1 and 2 are irrelevant to the topic really. Lore is relevant to some players and not to others. This is the nature of a broad playerbase.

Hopefully that clears up the confusion for you.
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Mike_Bluesky
06.18.2013 , 11:46 AM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
A few weeks ago it was Dyes.
And thank god for that "overreaction", maybe they'll think next before putting everything in random packs.
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Darth_Wicked
06.18.2013 , 11:47 AM | #80
^^ Great sig.