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Did Luke really force choke?


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Snakesoul
12.26.2011 , 03:41 AM | #51
It depends on how you look at it. It could be a sign of force choke but under more control, mostly dark side force users use force choke but due to their hatered it mostly intended to kill when used.

Another way it could be a mind trick making the guards feel like they choking but really nothing is physically wrong. Like how obi one uses it to make 2 stormtroopers look away near the tractor beam control. They thought they heard a noise but really there was no noise to begin with just a trick in their mind. It was also used in force unleash making troopers near a ledge want to jump for freedom when you use a mind trick , you can also hear them not even scream when they jump.

I also believe it was used in the novels as well to get past interesting situations.

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Chassit
12.26.2011 , 03:44 AM | #52
Hmmm....good points...
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Morticoccus
12.26.2011 , 03:47 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Snakesoul View Post
It was also used in force unleash making troopers near a ledge want to jump for freedom when you use a mind trick , you can also hear them not even scream when they jump.

I also believe it was used in the novels as well to get past interesting situations.
In KotOR 2 you could also use force persuade to, well, persuade, a group of thugs to give you all their money and then jump into the abyss on Nar Shadda.
When all is said and done we're not the only ones who look at life this way: That's what the Sith lords say.
And if they'd ever change as that reminds to say. But every time I see them makes me wish I had a gun. If I thought that I was crazy well I guess I'd have more fun.

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timowade
12.26.2011 , 03:53 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Tareel View Post
He force choked them, his hand is clearly curved. But in his defense, they are so fat, there ws no chance of doing in lasting harm with that little amount of choking. Plus Gammoreans are so stupid that force(physical type here) is the only way to reason with them, so aside from force pushing them out of the way, a force choke was good here.
he force choked, now i dissagree with the fact the hand needs to be curved, its just a symbol for each person to open that channel to the force, different echniques are used by different force users to open that channel as it were..
Tis not what they can do for you,
Tis only what you can do for all...

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RugarDraconis
12.26.2011 , 04:56 AM | #55
Actually The dark clothes were explained in dark forces (book). and the Palpatine clone was mentioned in I,Jedi. I would assume that the whole series was then adopted into cannon.

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Lockyda
12.26.2011 , 05:20 AM | #56
Luke was indeed touching the darkside when he went to rescue Han from Jabba.

He was emotional...it was anger. He did not however kill them.

As a side note in the Thrawn series (yeah I know expanded) it states that it felt wrong at the time but he calked it up to nerves.

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Khromag
12.26.2011 , 12:38 PM | #57
The overall problem, however, is that if the story were properly told he would have brought that den of villains under control and crushed their souls with imperial taxation.


Luke should have been sith. An error that George Lucas drinks heavily to forget.

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jarjarloves
12.26.2011 , 03:30 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Lockyda View Post
Luke was indeed touching the darkside when he went to rescue Han from Jabba.

He was emotional...it was anger. He did not however kill them.

As a side note in the Thrawn series (yeah I know expanded) it states that it felt wrong at the time but he calked it up to nerves.
I disagree if anything he was the exact opposite. Look at how he acts he is calm and collected the whole time. He even tries to avoid violence with Jaba by offering a deal to him several times.

He does very clearly kill the guards.


Now remember this movie was made LONG before the Jedi code and all the light and darkside powers came about. It wasn't till AFTER this movie that the whole mythology of the jedi and the force was written.

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Stinnes
12.28.2011 , 12:21 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by jarjarloves View Post
I disagree if anything he was the exact opposite. Look at how he acts he is calm and collected the whole time. He even tries to avoid violence with Jaba by offering a deal to him several times.

He does very clearly kill the guards.


Now remember this movie was made LONG before the Jedi code and all the light and darkside powers came about. It wasn't till AFTER this movie that the whole mythology of the jedi and the force was written.
Remember too that when Luke came into his own in ROTJ...Yoda was the only Jedi from the old order left. While he would have imparted elements of the code in his training of Luke, Luke did not live within a community of Jedi like Anakin and Obi-Wan did. Luke was somewhat on his own when it comes to figuring a lot of this stuff out.

Luke used Dark Side techniques in ROTJ....he was definately tappign into the DS at the end but made the DECISION to not turn.

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Wickedcarny
12.28.2011 , 03:55 PM | #60
EP IV - Luke wears white

EpV - Luke wears grey

EP VI - Luke wears black

Anyone else see this progression. Coincidence? Maybe. Does it symbolize his inner struggle with the darkside/knowledge of the force.

Or maybe they just make him look more ****** in each movie. He did look like he was goin to choke someone out in that black robe...oh wait he did. 2 Gammorean guards.