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Sages are Viable DPS, always ... mostly ... sorta ...

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Sages are Viable DPS, always ... mostly ... sorta ...

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deceptweb
05.31.2013 , 11:45 AM | #11
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namesaretough
05.31.2013 , 11:50 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Nibbon View Post
Is that a real question? Yeah I like sage dps in my raid but I wouldn't take more than two. I also like at least two sage healers, so that's a lot of sages. Viable.
If you had 4 or 5 sage dps who matched your numbers on every fight, would you bench all but one (+you makes 2) of them because of their class?

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Nibbon
05.31.2013 , 12:13 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by namesaretough View Post
If you had 4 or 5 sage dps who matched your numbers on every fight, would you bench all but one (+you makes 2) of them because of their class?
Depends on how many gunslingers I have :-)

Plus a couple sentinels, at least, so I can cycle them in and boost finals numbers.

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Grimsblood
05.31.2013 , 01:31 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Nibbon View Post
http://s3.mmoguildsites.com/s3/galle...png?1370010965 Me above Fenrir because he is a noob (is that calling out? please don't ban me).
I am going to have to start stacking sentinels in my group


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I'm going to pull the old "vanilla wow rogue" excuse... My class isn't op, the good players all just rolled gunslingers and snipers!
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Kindran
05.31.2013 , 02:23 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Nibbon View Post
Is that a real question? Yeah I like sage dps in my raid but I wouldn't take more than two. I also like at least two sage healers, so that's a lot of sages. Viable.
I agree with this as the more balance/madness specs you have (sage/shadow/sorcerer/assassin) the lower each ones dps becomes. This happens because of how Force in Balance and Deathfield stacks work with other classes DoT's.

The more Madness/Balance specs you have the more Mind Crush or Crushing Darkness steals the stacks from your other DoTs. MC/CD are the weakest damage per hit DoTs we have and they are the ones that tick most often, once per second. If you have 2 Madness/Balance specs in your raid the FiB/DF stacks will be gone within an average of 5-6 seconds. This would leave both players with ~10 seconds of unmodified DoT damage.

This problem is a lot worse with 3+ in the raid. It is also a lot worse if you have a TK/Lightning Sorc in the group stealing stacks with their lower damage DoTs. Sure MC/CD damage would be extra high, but our overall damage becomes lower.
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JDotter
05.31.2013 , 03:14 PM | #16
Please delete thread they can't know we're fine more buffs plz.


EDIT: Why is 16HM kephess dps so low? Weird


Also to all of you sorc/sages that only beat me after using the derp relics