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Hey Look At Me- I'm A Sensational PvP Bug, Fix Me

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Hey Look At Me- I'm A Sensational PvP Bug, Fix Me
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MidichIorian
06.20.2013 , 01:28 PM | #291
"More than intended" implies that purple and blue still are getting bolstered.

I currently have (typing from work so the numbers might be a little off)

* Full Conq: 1370 bonus damage in warzones

* Mixed set, six lvl 54 pieces and the rest Conq: +1450 bonus damage and better sub-stats

Will that differerence in bonus damage really be eaten up by the slight nerf to bolster of blues/purples? And don't forget, I'm comparing it to Conq. With partisan I'll have lower stats, meaning that the nerf has to be even bigger for there to be any point in trading PvE gear for PvP gear in the first place.
Sure, people who PvP a lot will eventually have enough comms to buy whatever set they like.....but what's the point of it? Might aswell blow everything on medpacks instead.

Hence, instead of fiddling with bolster on base-stats they should put the bolster on expertise. Because you know, that IS the PvP stat. Let a non-PvP set have a base-expertise on 1500 (3/4 of max sounds perfectly fine to me, they can make up for some of it in good PvE gear) and that's the end of it. No more tweaking back and forth to make sure that people don't find a way to boost their man stats while getting the expertise for free.

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Mikeieveli
06.20.2013 , 01:37 PM | #292
Does this fix include the Matrix cubes as BiS?
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Covaltage
06.20.2013 , 01:51 PM | #293
At what point will it be an upgrade to equip a Partisan weapon instead of a Campaign one?

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DanNV
06.20.2013 , 02:26 PM | #294
Quote: Originally Posted by MidichIorian View Post
Will that differerence in bonus damage really be eaten up by the slight nerf to bolster of blues/purples? And don't forget, I'm comparing it to Conq. With partisan I'll have lower stats, meaning that the nerf has to be even bigger for there to be any point in trading PvE gear for PvP gear in the first place.
Sure, people who PvP a lot will eventually have enough comms to buy whatever set they like.....but what's the point of it? Might aswell blow everything on medpacks instead.
Actually, they'd be better off to dump bolster and Expertise altogether, get rid of the PvP only gear and move on.

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Stncold
06.20.2013 , 03:16 PM | #295
Quote: Originally Posted by Knite_Gilnorn View Post
Thanks for the response Eric. I know bolster probably won't ever be removed like we hope.
We?

People who want bolster removed completely are the minority, so there's no "we". Lower levels in a bracket or fresh 55's shouldn't have a much harder time because they are lower level or haven't done the gear grind yet.

It just needs to be fixed, and possibly taken out of ranked. Even that's a big possibly because if bolster gets more new teams and kickballs queuing so the ranked scene is more active, then fix it and let it stay.
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BoushhDC
06.20.2013 , 06:38 PM | #296
Quote: Originally Posted by Mikeieveli View Post
Does this fix include the Matrix cubes as BiS?
Matrix cubes weren't BiS. BW tried to "fix"/change their PvP relics. Of course, they broke stuff (reference relic slot bug), so Matrix cubes are now just "Least Screwed-up in Slot." But by all means, ask them to break more stuff, they're on a roll after all. At the rate their going, the only viable gear to wear in PvP will be the white gear your character was born with. Sounds awesome, right? lmao.
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SithApreantace
06.20.2013 , 11:24 PM | #297
Quote: Originally Posted by BoushhDC View Post
Matrix cubes weren't BiS. BW tried to "fix"/change their PvP relics. Of course, they broke stuff (reference relic slot bug), so Matrix cubes are now just "Least Screwed-up in Slot." But by all means, ask them to break more stuff, they're on a roll after all. At the rate their going, the only viable gear to wear in PvP will be the white gear your character was born with. Sounds awesome, right? lmao.
So it's not BiS, it's LSuiS now. I like it! Let's all wear white gear. I haven't tried it but I bet there's and good new exploit in there.

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SithApreantace
06.21.2013 , 09:35 AM | #298
bump bump bump

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SwiftDuck
06.21.2013 , 09:42 AM | #299
The problem is bolster....stop making fixes for it and remove it. Replace it with the old system until you thoroughly test bolster system you have now...and actually listen to people this time.

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funkiestj
06.21.2013 , 10:02 AM | #300
Quote: Originally Posted by SwiftDuck View Post
The problem is bolster....stop making fixes for it and remove it. Replace it with the old system until you thoroughly test bolster system you have now...and actually listen to people this time.
endgame bolster is ostensibly the solution to the problem of players coming to endgame WZ with crap gear instead of the recruit gear.

I used to think that solving this problem was worth solving (ZOMG, why are you in engame WZ with level 45 greens! get the recruit gear you idiot n00b). Now that I see how much worse the cure is than the disease it is clear that endgame bolster should be removed.

Some folks at BW might agree but sunk costs will no doubt prevent them from holding a pillow over endgame bolster's face until it stops kicking.

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