ETA on Advanced Class change?

Dont you hate when that happens?

Just fart in his general direction. Or tell him he smells of elderberries.

The reason I take the "gear swap argument as follows" I will use commando/vanguard as an example and will use the tank/healer classes.

Player is at a level sufficient that they are understanding their class (say 50) and realizing that they do not like tanking operations, flashpoints, or group content in general and overall mechanics of the vanguard class. They do not want to switch to (which is essentially) a melee DPS spec. So they decide to swap to commando healer.

Their load out would be such that they are in essentially end game or approaching and starting to get end game gear. However, because they swapped all the mods, armorings, enhancements and even the mainhand/off hands, and any augmenets are essentially worthless.

Player would probably not have a main hand weapon even available (at best take it from jorgan) to even begin running content.

The logical assumption that would be made (since honestly not really a bad idea, since this is why they put in the timer anyway) that the easiest way to handle this would be that any armor bought for comms could be returned to the vendor for an equal item (potentially this is what the CM would actually pay for).

I'm well aware it was a give an inch. But I do feel there is a hidden cost there that until remedied, a player is essentially naked until either they spend lots of credits to gear, steal from their companion, or hopefully saved up comms.

This isn't a I have to get gear eventually anyway, this is that at the time of swapping due to each class having unique weapons choices, odds are high that the person will not have an available main hand and/or off hand to use.

If you take it to the extreme. swapping from say a sentinel to a guardian the char will have zero armor (if not already adaptive).

No no no no no. Twas his father hath smelt of elderberries.

Explain how this is so different from going between DPS and heal or tank. I say, again, apparently DPS to heal/tank (or the other direction) is an easily mastered change whereas tank to heal (or the other way) is just too much.

The day is early...I'm sure you two will find something to disagree with me on as the day passes

Armor is easy to acquire - the desire to grind a new identical story to enjoy the game, isn't.

Swapping within the same AC you at least have your main hand and weapons. And at worst you might be stacked heavy in alacrity

where as tanks are almost always stacked in def. Absorb. and Shield. Yes, even swapping from tank to dps requires plenty of gear changes and most people may have multiple gear sets, but again you are within your own AC and will still have your main hand weapon.

When you swap AC you will also need to swap your main hand. (single to staff, rifle to assault cannon etc).

The other extreme would be the JK/Warrior class. When you swap with in that. you will require swapping armor entirely (at least any that isnt adaptive) since one uses heavy the other medium. But the main hand would still be used.

Those were the key points i was trying to make. That at the moment you switch, you might be severely nerfed to the point of having no recourse but to spend credits to buy your way to a build. It is not as simple as just swapping trees, each AC is tied to a specific weapon.

I disagree with your assessment on what will transpire as the day passes.

Do you PvP at all? I already have 2 sets of 100% different gear. This is like saying "you should only be able to PvP or PvE since you need different gear for the other activity"...it's silly. Gear is a piece of cake to get. 20min NiM run of any classic Op and they'll have a 4-piece bonus too.


See That didn't take long

Yup you have one set for PVP another set for PVE totally understand that. Might even had a third set for PVE for if you feel like swapping specs.

But do you carry around a blaster rifle on your commando? Do you carry a set of heavy armor on your sentinel? How about a blaster pistol and a knfe on your sniper? Double bladed saber on your sage?

How are you going to run that Nim EV when your sentinel (fresh off of a guardian) is walking around with an ear piece and two implants unless yous pent a bunch of money on new armor just after you swapped. Since nothign yoru guardian would have will work with a sentinel other than those. Unless you have all adaptive armor which at this point maybe most do, but not everyone will.