ETA on Advanced Class change?

As for gear, you are currently within your AC meaning regardless of role it is the same weapon. Swapping AC would require entirely new weapons and armor.

Think of going from a merc healer, to a powertech tank, how much of a gear swap would you require? going from DPS to DPS would be somewhat neutral, however, mainhand/off hands are directly tied to your AC.

In the context of say the Inquisitor/counselor your AC swaps from either a single light saber to a saber staff.

Knights/Warriars would go from a single saber to dual saber requiring significant investment in new offhands/main hands.

Commando/vanguard would be similar, you go from an Assault cannon on the commando to a blaster rifle on the vanguard. It is not as simple as having 2x the gear, (pvp to pve, healer to dps) but entirely new gear.

I presented 4 reasons which you promptly said were "invalid" and ignored. Which is what he/she was referring too in your dismissal of our "reasons" They are only valid if you deem them valid. Otherwise they are invalid and thus we have failed to state even on reason against this.

I.e basically this comes down to those that think its a bad thing for X reasons. Those for it dismiss those reasons as invalid thus there are zero reasons to NOT implement it.

What does this have to do with anything though? Someone would need a new weapon...ok?! So? Why do you think that suddenly overrides the idea that this would benefit the game?

First of all there is no need to regear a companion, most endgame solo content can be cleared with any companion you want.
SWTOR does not have a high cost of equipping a character in new gear, in fact with the recent addition of Oricon they are literally giving it away.

Actual numbers of quality players for a particular class would remain the same, you are not getting rid of them. You may slightly increase the number of players that have not been grouped before, but that happens anyway and players have to learn their craft somewhere. If you want to avoid this join a guild or put good players you like on your friends list, or maybe be a bit understanding and offer tips and advice to novice players so they can become the better player you want them to be.

AC swapping actually increases the long term investment into a character. This is the main reason many of the pro-AC swap camp want it for, so they can carry on playing a character they have invested time in and enjoy the class story of but have tired of the mechanics or found their endgame role not one of their liking.

Replay ability remains for those that want to replay content. Bare in mind that AC swapping only eliminates the need to replay through the same class story, it does not eliminate the option of needing to play through the 8 individual class storylines. There is plenty of game time still there. I would say that a character that is invested enough in a character to want to pay out some CCs to swap the AC so they can continue to play them and have fun with them is a player who is more likely to pay out for the vanity items from the cartel market.

I think you need to find a different bat

And just to be fair I'll put my own concern about an AC swap here, it's about the only 'Con' I've seen that bears any merit....

Con
1) It diverts development time away from quality of life features that the game has greater need for.

That's it really. Given that AC Swapping would likely fall on the shoulder of the 'QoL' team rather than the 'Engine Optimisation' team or the 'New Content' team or even the 'Cartel Market' team. I would much rather their time be spent developing features like, and in no particular preference....

- Legacy bank tab (communal bank tab, pretty much for crafting materials and legacy bound items)
- Legacy based address book (ability to friend a legacy or ignore a legacy)
- More UI features (remove 'unlock' and 'UI customisation' button from the left of button one and place the options on the 'esc' key menu) and colour settings.
- The ability to save out ability UI configurations/ Keybinds on a character by character basis.
- Companion role kits (apparently they were in during Beta, I know you can use just about any companion when you hit end game but my mercenary wants their melee tank now and doesn't want to have to wait till the end of Belsavis)


If the Devs ever do get around to rolling out AC swapping I think it most likely to come at a time new AC options are introduced to the class system.

Re-read my reply dohboy, I actually DID reply to each of your 4 whines.

Let's see how "reasonable" folks can be.

If you have a particular view on this, pro or against, post a point that is opposite to your view but you find reasonable.

For instance, I am against AC change for the reasons I have posted ad infinitum. But I would say that allowing AC change would offer more choices for players, and that could be a good thing for the game.

IMO the most reasonable argument is one where you can concede points of contention to the other side.

Because as a general rule there is no "right" and "wrong" in this sort of discussion.

Sure...

I am 100% in favor of an AC swap option...but, to argue against it...

I'm against it because I don't want YOU to be able to. I want YOU penalized for picking wrong! I ground my 19 toons, you can too. You would roll NEED on loot I may want and I don't want to allow that.

Going from a Powertech Shieldtech (TANK) to Powertech Advanced Prototype (DPS) requires a complete regear. This is due to the complete difference in stats required.
It is no different in gearing terms at all. The weapon is an ingame model nothing more, the fact that you need different stats and wouldn't use the same item any way minimises if not eliminates this issue.

I have presented many valid reasons why allowing class changes is a bad thing. You can find them in this thread. you can even shorten the search by reading LordArtemis' condensed posts. The reasons I have provided do not mesh with your desire to see class changes allowed and so you simply declare those reasons invalid. The fact that you do not agree with a reason does not make it invalid.

Just a little bit ahead of you there