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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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branmakmuffin
10.23.2013 , 12:20 PM | #3281
Quote: Originally Posted by Glowrod View Post
I'm not going to read 82 pages to try to follow this...

When you choose an AC, you are warned that the choice is final and can't be undone. As a matter of principal, I am against changing AC because everyone agreed ahead of time that they wouldn't.
Who is "everyone?" And just because it works that way now does not mean they can't change it. That's like saying "You can't raise the speed limit on this road because it's always been 25 MPH."

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Jeweledleah
10.23.2013 , 12:20 PM | #3282
Quote: Originally Posted by gorstram View Post
That's a given. My biggest issue with the A/C change is not the change itself, but the impact it has on gear drops. Specifically PuGs. It's an area already rife with idiots, the concern is those who would abuse it. I'm not concerned with you or Bran, it's the other soft children out there who may or may not A/C change who are in effect stealing gear from someone who DOESN'T want an A/C change, who picked the correct class out of the gate, losing gear to someone who became wishy-washy about their toon choice,. Now please keep in mind, I'm talking about actual main rolling, not house-rules regarding alt or companion rolls.
like its been mentioned before. legacy gear. people roll for offspecs/alts/companions already. all the time. people roll on items their AC technically cannot use, but that has modifications they can pull out and put into item they CAN use... all. the. time. in fact, as far as I know - its a pretty acceptable thing to do, since you are still rolling for yourself, and so many of us have definitive gear sets that look of which we like, so mods will be pulled out regardless.

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Jeweledleah
10.23.2013 , 12:23 PM | #3283
Quote: Originally Posted by Glowrod View Post
I'm not going to read 82 pages to try to follow this...

When you choose an AC, you are warned that the choice is final and can't be undone. As a matter of principal, I am against changing AC because everyone agreed ahead of time that they wouldn't.

If we allow AC change, we might as well take it one step further and allow class change. I'm playing my Consular and suddenly a boss that would be much easier with a Knight, I'll just class change and this will be as easy as cake!

We, as players in any MMO, select a class that we want to experience and play it to the end. If we want to experience a different class, we roll up a different toon. AC is the exact same. There is a world of difference between the Sage and the Shadow. Switching them is no trivial thing. It's like a pro wrestler suddenly wanting to be a surgeon. It's rediculous.

I vote "No"
Class change is NOT the same as AC change in this game.

why? stories. stories and companions.

Ac is your class specialization. NOT different class. there is a world of difference between sage healer and sage dps as well. and yet switching is allowed.

in other words? you are using logical fallacy on top of logical fallacy.

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Glowrod
10.23.2013 , 12:24 PM | #3284
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
Who is "everyone?" And just because it works that way now does not mean they can't change it. That's like saying "You can't raise the speed limit on this road because it's always been 25 MPH."
I need you to go back and address the rest of my post, rather than take just one small piece of it and use it to validate your point of view. It's like "You made several points, but I disagree with one of them therefor the entire thing is invalid and that makes me right!"

Quote: Originally Posted by Glowrod View Post
I'm not going to read 82 pages to try to follow this...

When you choose an AC, you are warned that the choice is final and can't be undone. As a matter of principal, I am against changing AC because everyone agreed ahead of time that they wouldn't.

If we allow AC change, we might as well take it one step further and allow class change. I'm playing my Consular and suddenly a boss that would be much easier with a Knight, I'll just class change and this will be as easy as cake!

We, as players in any MMO, select a class that we want to experience and play it to the end. If we want to experience a different class, we roll up a different toon. AC is the exact same. There is a world of difference between the Sage and the Shadow. Switching them is no trivial thing. It's like a pro wrestler suddenly wanting to be a surgeon. It's rediculous.

I vote "No"

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branmakmuffin
10.23.2013 , 12:27 PM | #3285
Quote: Originally Posted by Glowrod View Post
I need you to go back and address the rest of my post, rather than take just one small piece of it and use it to validate your point of view. It's like "You made several points, but I disagree with one of them therefor the entire thing is invalid and that makes me right!"
I will address whatever part of a post I see fit to address. The rest of your post was just as nonsensical. Ergo unworthy of a reply.

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Glowrod
10.23.2013 , 12:35 PM | #3286
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
I will address whatever part of a post I see fit to address. The rest of your post was just as nonsensical. Ergo unworthy of a reply.
It sounds to me like that means you have no arguement. That means that I'm right and you're wrong. Now that we have that settled...

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WestXv
10.23.2013 , 12:37 PM | #3287
Quote: Originally Posted by Glowrod View Post
It sounds to me like that means you have no arguement. That means that I'm right and you're wrong. Now that we have that settled...

/thread
I hate to say it although I don't know why I hate to say it but I agree with mr muffin on this.
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branmakmuffin
10.23.2013 , 12:38 PM | #3288
Quote: Originally Posted by Glowrod View Post
It sounds to me like that means you have no arguement. That means that I'm right and you're wrong.
Let me summarize the only cogent point against AC change (aside from technical and/or resource issues, which as I said are always good reasons to not do something): you don't like it. As I stated, that's fair enough, as far as it goes. But, you know, if they added it and you didn't like it, there would be an easy solution: don't use it.

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TUXs
10.23.2013 , 12:39 PM | #3289
Quote: Originally Posted by WestXv View Post
I hate to say it although I don't know why I hate to say it but I agree with mr muffin on this.
It's ok, I feel the same way
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LanceCorporalDan
10.23.2013 , 12:40 PM | #3290
This is still going? I can't honestly see BW doing this at any point.
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