ETA on Advanced Class change?

I suppose. If we must.

hehe. I'm sure we will find something else to discuss shortly.....

Because you didn't even read the entire post you replied to, if you did you might have wondered what was written before, if you didn't conclude from that one. But you chose to only reply to one line to put me into the bad light, removing the context. You probably did that because you didn't see where the rest was coming from, which is what you are asking for now.

Like I told someone else before, maybe it wouldn't count for him, (probably wouldn't count for me, but I don't plan on changing AC anyway), but that doesn't mean it counts for everyone. There are many idiots playing, people that might not even learn the full extends of their advanced class as it is, if those people just switch advanced class they probably won't even check the skills they are missing for their new advanced class, let alone have a chance to really learn them.

You'll get people not checking gear, assassins/shadows with single blades, sentinels/marauders naked except for just a mainhand weapon (not even an offhand), juggernauts in non-tanking medium armor queuing as tanks. Snipers with rifles, as one of the trooper advanced classes that are supposed to use the big cannons, etc. You may check it, I would check it, a good number of people wouldn't check it but only ask when it's too late and whine when undoubtedly made fun of.

I asked what if there was a big warning pop-up when switching AC, only 1 person replied, seemingly on my side anyway.
I asked what if there was a requirement to have one of the target AC or it's counterpart for the other faction at level 50 or 55, no reply whatsoever. And just to be clear, that can be a character ever had and now deleted.

When those simple questions can't be responded to, how can you make much of a point at all. I just see people saying "I can handle it!" or "The majority can handle it!" If you say you can, I won't say you can't unless you leave me an impression that you can't, but if you say the majority can then I am going to laugh at you inside. I have seen way too many idiots to assume that a mindless implementation will not backfire, I count on a mindless implementation to severely hurt the game.

I don't care what AC you are or if you change yours at some point, I just hope the ignore list can be long enough to throw everyone unprepared on it, if this is to be ever implemented without serious thought from the devs.

Your entire argument against it boils down to "someone may not know how to play their new advanced class"? This isn't rocket surgery...it's a video game.

Dude, that happens every DAY as it is. Good players will still be good, bad players will still be bad. It'll take 2-days tops for semi-decent players to be semi-decent players again. This is no different than people playing on alts or swapping skill trees as it is.

I find it silly that you'd /ignore someone for swapping ACs...I think that's very petty...but I support your desire to do so. I happen to believe that the players who would do this will be the players who will excel in their class, no matter which AC they select. They'll have a renewed interest in the game and they'll be anxious to get their new gear and play their new AC. I'd group with that type of player any day over someone who thinks it's any of their business what I do.

Your entire argument against it boils down to "someone may not know how to play their new advanced class"? This isn't rocket surgery...it's a video game.

Dude, that happens every DAY as it is. Good players will still be good, bad players will still be bad. It'll take 2-days tops for semi-decent players to be semi-decent players again. This is no different than people playing on alts or swapping skill trees as it is.

I find it silly that you'd /ignore someone for swapping ACs...I think that's very petty...but I support your desire to do so. I happen to believe that the players who would do this will be the players who will excel in their class, no matter which AC they select. They'll have a renewed interest in the game and they'll be anxious to get their new gear and play their new AC. I'd group with that type of player any day over someone who thinks it's any of their business what I do.

What does MY AC mean to you? "Means to other people"???? Explain that...what do you mean? What does it matter to you? Do you run around Fleet and tell people what AC they should take? Mind your own business...seriously...my AC doesn't matter ONE BIT to you or however you play this game. It doesn't matter if I grind from 1-55 or swap at 55...neither have ANY effect on you and you can't tell the difference.

See, to most people, this is just a game. They play to enjoy themselves. If they want to swap AC's, I feel they should be allowed to because it DOES NOT EFFECT ME AT ALL! Let me restate that...what AC you pick, whether you respec ACs or learn from the ground up, has NO IMPACT on my playing at all. NONE! Zero!

Just as your entire argument for it boils down to " I don't want to roll an alt"

I'll play your game Tux. Last week you made a point to state that Assault VG and Assault Mando trees were "EXACTLY" the same. I pointed out the differences to you and you changed your tune to "similar".

If you actually played both classes as that spec regularly, you would have never claimed that they were exactly the same. Because they are not. It is most noticeable in your HiB reset abilities. VG have instant abilities and Mando have channels. That is pretty darn noticeable.

I would be able to tell if you are fumbling trying to figure out your new class.

Yea, not only is that not reasonable. It's one sided.

So far I'm the only one who comprised here. I used to be for:
Unlimited AC change per character
High CC/Credit cost for each use.
1 Month cool down.
Allowed at 11-55.

Then I changed my stance to:
AC change 2 times per character
High CC/Credit cost for each use
Allowed at 45-55.

You pretty much have offered nothing as far as incentive for the other side. I would maybe agree to a level 35 de-level and add in your bonuses. That's pretty much it though, since you offered me nothing.

I would support the following:

Option 1: Status Quo
Option 2: One free respec at level 50 for subscribers with the completion of Act 3, retroactive. Following a 30 day CD from initial respec allow One free respec at current game max level for subscribers. Maximum total 2 respecs per lifetime of toon for subscribers separated by no less than 30 days. NO exceptions, no further debate, no F2P respec options.

This way, if you hate your AC at 50(or 55 if you are already there), you can go to the alternate AC. If it turns out, that you hate that more, you can go back. Once you have experienced both at "end game", you no longer have any argument to make for further respec.

Huh?! Have I EVER stated that? I have plenty of alts Soluss. My "argument" is, I don't care what AC YOU are...I just want you happy. If swapping AC's makes you happy, it's a minimal change that has no bearing on my ability to play or do anything.