ETA on Advanced Class change?

missed my point again, you need to learn how to comprehend what im saying man.

my point is that the devs have a tendency to say one thing then turn around and say sometime else or lie went they really meant something else. in fact, let use AC change for example,i believe that in this thread we have seen a the Devs quotes pre 2.0 do exactly that, they say AC change was on the way then went nah we're not doing AC change then went to back to we probably gonna do it.

i seen politicians that maintain their words tighter than swtor dev team. AC were called "classes" because at the time they probably didnt want to bother with AC changing or etc. later on, they probably change their opinion on it and then decided that AC isnt really it OWN SEPARATE CLASS but just SUBSETS and figured that AC change is acceptable...until they change their mind again and said no to AC....THEN said they are reconsider or whatever political jungian BW spewed.



TL;DR or DCP (Didnt Comprehend the Post)

swtor dev team constantly say things that were outright lies or misrepresent a something when put on the spot. we have seen MANY times that the dev team, community manager and etc apologies because they didnt worded what they said exactly. to actually believe that AC is truly is its own separate classes is ridiculous as it would have its own unique features that isnt tied into anything other classes from either factions.

their word is ironically as trustworthy as a forum member getting his or her news from a fan website.at least with the forum member have an excuse as they are reading unfounded rumors that the fan sites founded when they datamined for the game. bioware on the other hand, have no excuse.

I would consider MONTHS before the game was released to be long before the game was released. The devs decided after that statement and still months before the game was released NOT to allow class changes. Whether you consider months to be a long time or not does not negate the devs decision NOT to allow class changes. A decision which was made BEFORE this game ever saw release.

I'm not going to discount anything you said here. I just want to point out that Lucas is also out of the way. Any student of SWG already knows that SOE took a lot of flack for decisions forced on them by LA.

So, while the original Devs are out of the picture, so is Lucas. Which, in my mind, is a good thing.

Actually, what he is talking about is the Exclusivity Clause that EA puts into all their contracts. SOE fully expected that SWG and TOR would run along side eachother because they had vastly different player-bases. it was literally about 3 weeks before EA announced the Pre-Order of this that SWG was notified that they would be forced to shut down.

I completely understand that you want to claim that the dev team lies. The factual evidence that NO dev has ever contradicted their statements that AC's are different classes in over a year and a half, however, tells me that this is one instance in which they have not "lied" or "flip-flopped".

I'm done with this. Have a nice thread.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bPHcUOHuiFU

i did not know that, which i guess make sense since swg closed when swtor opened

and..

indeed, lucas art did ALOT OF DAMAGE to stars wars and i was honest one of the few people that actually cheered that SW gaming license was given to EA.

I get your point but I think you missed mine. The person I quoted was asking about people who love their main but hate the AC. I can't speak for everyone, but I don't often play toons that I don't like and if I don't play it, it can't be my main.

as far as we know though. i mean, if the ACs were truly its own classes and totally unique and never should be messed with: then did bioware even consider AC change?to me this infer that AC are just subsets classes, not actual classes like the main 8 storyline classes. i mean, bioware will never said, imply hinted or deserved a jedi knight to become a jedi consular or even offer a option to do so because those classes are fundamentally different. there are no similarity between the two, they dont share the same story,the same stat and etc.AC on the other hand, both share the same story, character,same stat and etc. of course though, this is me and you debating on the word of devs that are no longer even apart of the swtor team.


therefore what we are discussing about is really moot. now im gonna concentrate pvp on my shadow (i keep missing the pvp join window because i posting on this thread lol)

im gonna end this to say we gonna have to agree to disagree

Ok well I guess you're very young. Compared to the development time of the game (possibly over 60 mos), 2-4 mos is a very small fraction of that time. Making a significant change in that amount of time would qualify as "at the last minute" to me... But whatever, I see we're probably not going to agree on anything.