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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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Ratajack
08.03.2013 , 11:41 AM | #2821
Quote: Originally Posted by Grayseven View Post
And every argument against has been refuted. There are no good reasons to not allow it, while the very best argument to allow it...that being it gives players an option.
Each and every player ALREADY has the choice and option to play that other class.

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ekwalizer
08.03.2013 , 11:44 AM | #2822
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
That's a nice straw man you've created, there.
LMAO! That is not a Straw-man argument. No real shocker there though. You also improperly tried to use "Slippery Slope Fallacy" last week.

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Grayseven
08.03.2013 , 11:44 AM | #2823
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Thank you for your contributions to this debate Gray. I appreciate you posting on this subject.
I tried to stay away from it after around page...hundred and something I think...but I couldn't help myself. I have too much free time right now...besides, while I like my Commando I would like to give Vanguard a go at some point but have no interest in leveling up another toon after the first 15 or so...
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TUXs
08.03.2013 , 11:46 AM | #2824
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
You were the one who brought up industry norms. I did not. I simply pointed out that CLASS changes were NOT the norm in the industry, which by your own quote you acknowledge.

Since I had the audacity to point out that CLASS changes were not the industry norm, you want to narrow your focus to this one game, again.
I mentioned that I think it should be the industry norm and I pointed out that the previous Star Wars MMO allowed it.

And Rat, the only MMO I'm interested in debating in this forum, is THIS game - my rational for mentioning SWG was to refute your proclamation that it wasn't allowed in any other game.
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Grayseven
08.03.2013 , 11:46 AM | #2825
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
Each and every player ALREADY has the choice and option to play that other class.
AC, not class, and yes they do but some people don't want to have to level yet one more toon...or have a beloved main that they simply don't like the AC of and would like to try the other side.

Reroll is an option, but does not have to be the only option considering how freaking boring leveling gets after you've done it 8 times to see all the story arcs.
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ekwalizer
08.03.2013 , 11:47 AM | #2826
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
This This is the bottom line. People need to mind their own business and not worry so much about what others are doing. I mean seriously...this impacts those of you who are so concerned about it 0%!!!! Let it go.

Again, MMOs are fluid enough that there's no reason this shouldn't be the norm in the industry. There's NO rational reason not to allow it. Nobody has presented even ONE valid reason that allowing this would be a negative to the game or the community.
That is your opinion. No one on your side of the aisle has presented a single valid argument for us either. That is how opinions work. Bring some facts of your own to the table before you make sweeping opinionated statements.

Here is a fact for you. It currently is the NORM in the MMO industry to NOT allow class changes. I am fairly certain that game developers and producers are much more plugged into what should and shouldn't be done than anyone posting here.

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astrobearx
08.03.2013 , 11:47 AM | #2827
Quote: Originally Posted by ekwalizer View Post
NO, but that doesn't change the fact that the Creative Director and Lead Developer at the time the game was designed stated emphatically that ACs were separate classes and not meant to be interchangeable.

Whether he still works there or not is irrelevant.

Special Relativity didn't stop being important just because Albert Einstein passed away.
1.actually it IS relevant if the original devs are gone as the new ones may think differently.there are a ton of things we have now that the former devs said "NO" to. new devs = new possibles that the old devs didnt allow

2. you analogy is flaw as one albert einstein theory isnt absolute. in fact, i believe there were many theories einstein came up with that was later refuted due to new science being discovered. his theory is nowhere near absolute as you think. a better analogy would be the presidential administrations. each administration policies on homeland security,foreign matters and etc are either similar or completely different from his predecessors. it totally depend on the new administration if they chose to follow the previous admin policies.

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ekwalizer
08.03.2013 , 11:48 AM | #2828
Quote: Originally Posted by PeterTLJr View Post
Nothing in a game is permanent.
If BW/EA ever does allow AC change, this will be the primary argument made for Merc to Jugg,

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branmakmuffin
08.03.2013 , 11:48 AM | #2829
Quote: Originally Posted by ekwalizer View Post
LMAO! That is not a Straw-man argument. No real shocker there though. You also improperly tried to use "Slippery Slope Fallacy" last week.
"LMAO" is not a very compelling counter-argument. But if that's all you got, we understand.

It seems you should invest some time into looking up "straw man" and "slippery slope."

Quote: Originally Posted by ekwalizer View Post
If BW/EA ever does allow AC change, this will be the primary argument made for Merc to Jugg,
If you had ever bothered to look up "slippery slope," you would not have made that comment.

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ekwalizer
08.03.2013 , 11:50 AM | #2830
Quote: Originally Posted by Grayseven View Post
You mean the statement that has been quoted all over this thread about the fact that they were looking at allowing AC switching? The one you keep ignoring because you are on a personal crusade because you think that all decisions are final and permanent just because of ONE old statement about one dev saying that AC's are separate classes.

Your arguments are weak and are nothing but repetitions of the same old stuff you've been spewing.
No one is ignoring that statement. In fact, Rat has pointed to it repeatedly by reminding everyone that that interview was conducted 9 months ago and not a single peep from the Staff has been made regarding that issue since then.