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Bomyne
07.30.2013 , 10:24 PM | #2621
Quote: Originally Posted by ekwalizer View Post
You might want to look into all the Sandbox MMOs of the time, specifically SWG.
SWG had specializations for every class. In point of fact you could specialize in 2 classes.
Sure it was the first non-stop theme park. But linked quests was hardly innovative.
Their death mechanic was really the only thing they did that was unique at the time.
SWG was a small map (16km squared I think) per planet. To travel a single continent in WoW, it was a lot further than 16km.

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LordArtemis
07.31.2013 , 03:14 AM | #2622
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
They share SOME things, not everything. They share story, they share a tree in the skills. They share armor, but not main/off hand sets. They play completely differently, sharing only the non AC skills.....but it's AC skills that define the AC and the optimal skill rotations, not the base skills.

So.. no.. again.. please stop using ABSOLUTES. They share some things, not all things.
I would agree with this.

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07.31.2013 , 07:13 AM | #2623
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
Faction change is not AC change
Right, it's a much more dramatic change. So you're in favor of the more dramatic change.

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07.31.2013 , 07:43 AM | #2624
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
Right, it's a much more dramatic change. So you're in favor of the more dramatic change.
Yes I am. I think I made that clear already.
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TUXs
07.31.2013 , 08:29 AM | #2625
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
Daniel's statements are not negated by his no longer being employed by BW/EA. You may think that allowing class changes would be good for the game, but many, including myself, do not.
Why? Why would this not be good? Why???? Give me ONE compelling reason jack...cuz so far, NOBODY has. "people won't know how to play" isn't a reason...plenty of people hit 55 and have no clue. So please...why on earth is this NOT good for the game?
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imperialmerc
07.31.2013 , 08:34 AM | #2626
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Why? Why would this not be good? Why???? Give me ONE compelling reason jack...cuz so far, NOBODY has. "people won't know how to play" isn't a reason...plenty of people hit 55 and have no clue. So please...why on earth is this NOT good for the game?
I'll tell you why: what if you switch from a Guardian/Juggernaut to a Sentinel/Marauder? You now cannot use ANY of your gear (it will be deequipped since you can't use heavy armor) except your mainhand, earpiece, relics, and implants. And I don't know about you, but anybody who comes into a flashpoint or operation with me NAKED, is getting the boot rather quickly.
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07.31.2013 , 08:38 AM | #2627
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
They share SOME things, not everything. They share story, they share a tree in the skills. They share armor, but not main/off hand sets. They play completely differently, sharing only the non AC skills.....but it's AC skills that define the AC and the optimal skill rotations, not the base skills.

So.. no.. again.. please stop using ABSOLUTES. They share some things, not all things.
Uh...no...again...they do not play completely differently and they do NOT only share "non AC skills"...stop exaggerating. They share MOST things, INCLUDING AC skills. Look at the Vanguard and the Commando Assault tree. MOST skills are EXACTLY the same...those are AC skills, not shared Trooper abilities.

Allowing AC change should be allowed. If someone wants to change AC's so they can fill a role in their guild or to better enjoy the game, there's NO REASON not to allow it. NONE!
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07.31.2013 , 08:39 AM | #2628
Quote: Originally Posted by imperialmerc View Post
I'll tell you why: what if you switch from a Guardian/Juggernaut to a Sentinel/Marauder? You now cannot use ANY of your gear (it will be deequipped since you can't use heavy armor) except your mainhand, earpiece, relics, and implants. And I don't know about you, but anybody who comes into a flashpoint or operation with me NAKED, is getting the boot rather quickly.
That's actually a good point...naked players tend to creep me out...so...give me TWO reasons...
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07.31.2013 , 08:50 AM | #2629
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
That's actually a good point...naked players tend to creep me out...so...give me TWO reasons...

I don't consider the gear a problem -- but thats because:

You are stuck with the same issue if you're swapping from tanking to DPSing -- at least, to some extent. Can't you pull the mods + enhancements out, and just have to buy armorings?

Regardless -- that is one of the prices you "pay" when swapping ACs. I *might* be ok with it giving you a set of lvl 30 gear or something (if you're lvl 55 with lvl 50+ gear already), so you can go out and grind some stuff.

Or, just be good and start gathering the pieces you need before you swap =D
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imperialmerc
07.31.2013 , 08:54 AM | #2630
Quote: Originally Posted by Kilora View Post
I don't consider the gear a problem -- but thats because:

You are stuck with the same issue if you're swapping from tanking to DPSing -- at least, to some extent. Can't you pull the mods + enhancements out, and just have to buy armorings?

Regardless -- that is one of the prices you "pay" when swapping ACs. I *might* be ok with it giving you a set of lvl 30 gear or something (if you're lvl 55 with lvl 50+ gear already), so you can go out and grind some stuff.

Or, just be good and start gathering the pieces you need before you swap =D
The gear isn't a huge issue when you're switching to an AC whose gear you can use, you can still perform ok and fill in the slots. I'm going to revert back to my previous Guardian/Juggernaut to Sentinel/Marauder argument, you can't get geared if you're naked or even in level 30s because if a newly switched Sentinel shows up with 10k hp in a run of HM Cad, I won't be able to hit that vote kick button fast enough, and that just isn't fair both to me and to that sentinel.
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Snefru level 55 Sith Juggernaut Kam'ina level 60 Jedi Sentinel
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