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branmakmuffin
07.28.2013 , 07:27 PM | #2531
Quote: Originally Posted by dscount View Post
I think a AC Change ONLY in the same CLASS should be available.

SORC can change to SIN and SIN to SORC.
SNIPER can change to OPERATIVE and OPERATIVE to SNIPER.
MERC to POWERTECH or POWERTECH to MERC.

TOTALLY Disagree with going cross class for any changes. (SNIPER> JUGG or MERC > SORC)
No one is suggesting that. It would probably be too difficult to do in light of the story and companions in any event, as hard as changing factions or genders.

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It isn't just his opinion.
It's his opinion and the opinions of others who share that opinion. No players opinion will carry the day. If BWEA decides it will, overall, be a money-maker, that's all that matters.

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At this point there is very little you can do to alter the state of the game. Your argument has been lost by people who made the same case, better.
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JokerThe
07.28.2013 , 07:52 PM | #2532
is that to change the type of spec u want to be say like change my guardian to a sentinel is that what u mean.

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JokerThe
07.28.2013 , 08:11 PM | #2533
is that to change the type of spec u want to be say like change my guardian to a sentinel is that what u mean.

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DAMossimo
07.28.2013 , 08:13 PM | #2534
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
It's his opinion and the opinions of others who share that opinion. No players opinion will carry the day. If BWEA decides it will, overall, be a money-maker, that's all that matters.
That's true; and the fact that nothing has been announced in quite a while is evidence that it doesn't seem to be a viable money-maker for them. When all is considered (losing revenue from additional unlocks, additional armors, XP boosts, etc...), they would have to price the AC switch so high that few would take advantage of it. You see people complaining now about the cost of server transfers. They probably just don't want to come right out and state it in gold and gray right now as touchy as the playerbase is.

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LordArtemis
07.28.2013 , 10:56 PM | #2535
Quote: Originally Posted by justandulas View Post
It has been discussed and debated since beta years back. The community more or less agrees with my opinion that it would be more harmful than beneficial to this game since AC's are seperate CLASSES (Not specs). Everytime this topic is brought up, the vote is overwhelmingly AGAINST AC switching.
Well, not in this thread. Perhaps things are changing, but in this thread it has been pretty much even across the board.

It is about the same ratio as those supporting and opposed to sprint at level 1.

Also, DE was the loudest and most consistent voice against AC change....the only issue on which he and I ever agreed. He is, of course, gone from the game now.

He was also dead set against allowing cross class gear appearance, orange moddable gear, sprint at level 1, connected shuttle paths, quick travel, convenience in the game, a market, free to play, appearance and race change after creation and mail to opposing faction characters.

The latest comment from anyone on the Dev staff is much more pro change than in the past.

This is one of the things that I worry about. I am VERY HAPPY that DE and devs like him are gone from the game (the game would have been better off if he had never been part of the staff IMO) but that of course means that AC change is open game now like all the other restrictions in place that almost buried the game.

I don't think a lack of AC is one of the restrictions that hurt the game originally though....but naturally it's on the table like all the others.

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LordArtemis
07.28.2013 , 11:05 PM | #2536
A side note, and I'm just speculating here, but one might think that if, based on internal metrics this represented a money maker for them it would have already been implemented, or perhaps mentioned again.

It's been a while, race change was already introduced but not another peep about AC change.

I am hopeful that this means, at least for now, it is not considered something they are going to add.

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Toweleeeie
07.29.2013 , 02:31 AM | #2537
Wish people cared about ability delay as much as this stupid topic. Over 2000 posts... So stupid. Post about something that actually matters. This topic doesn't matter at all and will not effect the community in the slightest.

But I'll add my 2 cents, only allow dps only classes to change to tanks bc we need a lot more.
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MajikMyst
07.29.2013 , 02:42 AM | #2538
Quote: Originally Posted by LordArtemis View Post
A side note, and I'm just speculating here, but one might think that if, based on internal metrics this represented a money maker for them it would have already been implemented, or perhaps mentioned again.

It's been a while, race change was already introduced but not another peep about AC change.

I am hopeful that this means, at least for now, it is not considered something they are going to add.
The money issue has already been considered.. They make more money on alts than they would on allowing AC swapping..

You have to consider that in order for them to make any money on it, people have to buy it.. So making it some super expensive price isn't going to work.. It has to be reasonable for people to buy it.. The other issue is, would it be one time thing or just would it be something could do when ever they wanted??

Alts is a guaranteed income really.. I have a number of alts.. I have bought a number of outfits on the CM for them.. I have also bought mounts.. The more characters a person has, the more chances Bioware has at making money..

Doing something that would limit the number of alts a person would need would actually cost them money..

Money aside however.. I doubt bioware is going to make a change that it knows most people do not want.. Just saying..
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MajikMyst
07.29.2013 , 02:53 AM | #2539
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
It was an interview with Damion Schubert that happened about 9 months ago.

pulled from Dulfy website.

However, Stephen Reid had also said this in an earlier interview:

Bolded the important part that some people would like to ignore.
Then again I stand corrected.. I have never seen them use the word likely until now.. Ok.. Lord.. You have my apologies then..

And thanks for the quote Soluss..
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MajikMyst
07.29.2013 , 03:03 AM | #2540
Quote: Originally Posted by LordArtemis View Post
Well, not in this thread. Perhaps things are changing, but in this thread it has been pretty much even across the board.

It is about the same ratio as those supporting and opposed to sprint at level 1.

Also, DE was the loudest and most consistent voice against AC change....the only issue on which he and I ever agreed. He is, of course, gone from the game now.

He was also dead set against allowing cross class gear appearance, orange moddable gear, sprint at level 1, connected shuttle paths, quick travel, convenience in the game, a market, free to play, appearance and race change after creation and mail to opposing faction characters.

The latest comment from anyone on the Dev staff is much more pro change than in the past.

This is one of the things that I worry about. I am VERY HAPPY that DE and devs like him are gone from the game (the game would have been better off if he had never been part of the staff IMO) but that of course means that AC change is open game now like all the other restrictions in place that almost buried the game.

I don't think a lack of AC is one of the restrictions that hurt the game originally though....but naturally it's on the table like all the others.
And you wonder why I say you are pro-AC..

This thread is not pro-AC.. More people are against by a landslide...
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