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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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MajikMyst
07.27.2013 , 07:25 PM | #2441
Quote: Originally Posted by TridusSWTOR View Post
As usual, you miss the point. Nothing new there and it's to be expected.

Yea people have a choice, usually that choice is determined at around level 45. You know, when you start getting talents that matter? Oh but you would know that, wouldn't you?

Then they find out healing isn't for them on their sorc. Then they don't care for their style of ranged DPS. You do know there are different styles of ranged DPS? Don't you?

Oh, but you want them to delete all that effort because they didn't "earn" those levels. Nope, they just came out of thin air, it's like magic!

Take a grasp on reality bud, you really need it.

You have been debunked.
Nope.. Again.. I am not the one missing the point..

As for you post.. More babble and meaningless stuff.. Trolling again as usual I see.. There really isn't much to say to you at this point..

I mean seriously.. You think at level 45 is when you get the talents that matter?? Really?? Because from level's 20-55 is about 95% upgrades to existing skills.. Most skill trees on average only give you about 2 or 3 skills that are tree specific.. End talent being one of them.. As for the trainer.. You get some skills, but none of which have any impact on how your chosen class plays.. Slow time does not define what a shadow tank is.. Master strike does not define what a Sentinel is.. Let's face it.. From 50 to 55, most classes only got 1 new skill.. Just one.. Using your logic, someone could decide that they don't like a shadow any more because they don't like phase walk.. Sorry but that is just plain stupid..

Classes are much more than the sum of their skills and talents.. You need to come to terms with that.. If it takes someone 45 levels to decide they don't like a character or class.. That is their problem.. I have no sympathy.. They can roll a new character.. All classes play at level 10 when they get their AC plays exactly the same as it does at level 55.. Your skills from the skill tree and trainer do not change the way your class functions and operates..

Quote: Originally Posted by TridusSWTOR View Post
Then they find out healing isn't for them on their sorc. Then they don't care for their style of ranged DPS. You do know there are different styles of ranged DPS? Don't you?
Take this statement here.. You question my understanding of the game and then you make a statement like this.. What you are describing here isn't even an AC swap.. In order for someone that is a sorc to go to another ranged DPS class is to become an Agent or Bounty Hunter.. Assassins are mele dps and not ranged.. So I just have to wonder.. What game are you talking about?? If you are a Sorc and you want to go to another ranged DPS class, you are not swapping your AC..

I never said I wanted anyone to delete anything.. They can if they want or they can keep the toon to monkey around with later.. Perhaps use it to be a bank alt.. Again you are misrepresenting what I said because of your proven reading disorder..

Odd that you make statements like the one above and call me the troll..

As for reality?? You are not even close.. Sorry..
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MajikMyst
07.27.2013 , 07:31 PM | #2442
Quote: Originally Posted by LordArtemis View Post
Note that race change did come....but AC change did not. I think that is noteworthy.
Why?? Race changing is cosmetic and has no impact on game play.. AC changing will have a major impact on game play and is not cosmetic..

Seems to me you are trying to compare apples to oranges..
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Soluss
07.27.2013 , 07:34 PM | #2443
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst View Post
Why?? Race changing is cosmetic and has no impact on game play.. AC changing will have a major impact on game play and is not cosmetic..

Seems to me you are trying to compare apples to oranges..
I think he is trying to say that its probably about as easy to code in an AC change as it is a race change. The fact that they did code in a race change and not an AC change may mean they don't have plans to do so. Atleast not yet.
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MajikMyst
07.27.2013 , 07:41 PM | #2444
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
I think he is trying to say that its probably about as easy to code in an AC change as it is a race change. The fact that they did code in a race change and not an AC change may mean they don't have plans to do so. Atleast not yet.
Perhaps.. But I think it would be common knowledge and understanding to know that programming an AC change is far different than a race change..

You would have to change weapon permissions as most classes do not use the same weapons..

You would have to give them access to a separate set of talent trees..

And then you would have to deal with the armor restrictions..

There is probably much more to it than that.. I know with computers, it isn't always simple and easy.. Just look at the issues they have nailing down some bugs.. Like the recent jumping bug..

I am sure you know this.. I don't know what Bioware has plans for or not.. I do know that during the beta, the community was pretty against AC swapping.. Also Bioware made a point to mention that they didn't want a single class having access to both healing and tanking specs.. AC swapping would eliminate that rule..
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Soluss
07.27.2013 , 07:43 PM | #2445
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst View Post
Perhaps.. But I think it would be common knowledge and understanding to know that programming an AC change is far different than a race change..

You would have to change weapon permissions as most classes do not use the same weapons..

You would have to give them access to a separate set of talent trees..

And then you would have to deal with the armor restrictions..

There is probably much more to it than that.. I know with computers, it isn't always simple and easy.. Just look at the issues they have nailing down some bugs.. Like the recent jumping bug..

I am sure you know this.. I don't know what Bioware has plans for or not.. I do know that during the beta, the community was pretty against AC swapping.. Also Bioware made a point to mention that they didn't want a single class having access to both healing and tanking specs.. AC swapping would eliminate that rule..
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ForsakenKing
07.27.2013 , 07:48 PM | #2446
i am amazed that this thread is still around lol. incase BW is still reading this, i vote to not allow AC changes...ever

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MajikMyst
07.27.2013 , 08:18 PM | #2447
Quote: Originally Posted by ForsakenKing View Post
i am amazed that this thread is still around lol. incase BW is still reading this, i vote to not allow AC changes...ever
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MajikMyst
07.27.2013 , 09:23 PM | #2448
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
I changed my AC at level 45 and I don't like the other AC... Why cant I switch back just this once. It isn't fair!
I saw what you did there.. lol
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Anosa
07.27.2013 , 10:54 PM | #2449
i think an AC respec isnt a bad idea. I have toonsi wish were not the AC i have picked and i do not want to reroll. I absolutely hate rerolling.
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Hockaday
07.28.2013 , 12:39 AM | #2450
Quote: Originally Posted by TridusSWTOR View Post

Yea people have a choice, usually that choice is determined at around level 45. You know, when you start getting talents that matter? Oh but you would know that, wouldn't you?


You have been debunked.
You need to leave this thread, now. This is so factually inaccurate, I'm literally LMAO in RL. Pretty sure I just lost a few pounds...thanks!

But really, no, in the only other game I know of that used a similar system (EQ2), you had to choose at level 19 or 20. Your actual class...far before your claimed "level 45". Infact, back then you started out as nothing, then chose fighter, then crusader, then sk / pal. from 1-20.

Now, they did do away with this, and you might be thinking "see! I was right"...but you're not. Because you'd still be complaining and now asking for a class change (you are already...) even if we started as Sorc or Sin at level 1.

When you decide an AC, it is CLEAR what that AC will be doing. In perfect detail? Not exactly, but most who play MMOs wouldn't understand that detail anyway. Plus, most people...ya know...do actual research into the game they'll play. Watch videos, read forums...

If someone doesn't do any of that, we shouldn't lower things to their level, they should raise to our level.

Also, you realise if we go with the "you don't get talents that matter until later levels"...that happens with any class pretty much, on any game. Should all games have class switching? at any time they want? Because people can't read?
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