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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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MajikMyst
07.27.2013 , 04:42 PM | #2411
Quote: Originally Posted by TridusSWTOR View Post
One small fact, if an AC change were put in the game.
But they are not in the game are they.. That is the fact you ignore.. There is no 'if'.. You are asking for a change to the current rules of the game.. That is you imposing your play style on others..

I can't say it any simpler than that..

As for proving you wrong?? There is no need.. You do that yourself every time you post and misrepresent what someone says.. If you can't respond to what someone says accurately then you are always wrong..
Who is the more foolish? The fool or the fool that follows him?

[.] Lost but never forgotten!! 12-01-2011 R.I.P.

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Ratajack
07.27.2013 , 04:42 PM | #2412
Quote: Originally Posted by TridusSWTOR View Post
Actually they said they will highly likely add it in the near future.

It's a matter of the Anti-AC change crowd to stop acting childish and actually talk about terms. Which they have yet to do.

Nice job showing bias though.
Many of those opposed to class changes, including myself, have offered suggested compromises. They just don't mesh with what you want, so you declare them invalid and unreasonable.

I, for one, find your suggestions to be unreasonable. I may be wrong, but I suspect that many of those opposed to class changes would agree with me on that point.

I guess we'll just never be able to come to an agreement, so maybe things will remain as they were designed and implemented by the devs.

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TridusSWTOR
07.27.2013 , 04:49 PM | #2413
Quote: Originally Posted by Soluss View Post
You already have that choice when you create the character.
And we are back to people who are new to MMO's not being considered at all by you. God forbid those new players, try to get into a game.

I love how this cycle goes, once I prove you wrong in one thing, then you move on to the next subject that I can prove you wrong again.

I think the pattern goes for you: Ignoring new MMO players--> Comparing this game to other MMO's and making that the standard-->saying level 10 shows you all the abilities you need just as you would at level 55--->Hrmm, you can fill in the last one for me.

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TridusSWTOR
07.27.2013 , 04:50 PM | #2414
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
The person who has only leveled a sorcerer to level 45 put in effort to get a sorcerer to level 45. He did NOT put any effort into getting an assassin to level 45.
He did put in effort.

Therefore you are willing to throw away someones effort because of your own beliefs? Seems rather selfish.

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TridusSWTOR
07.27.2013 , 04:53 PM | #2415
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
You are asking to be able to undo a decision that each and every player is advised at least 4 times is PERMANENT and even has to click the confirm button at least twice to confirm that they know it is PERMANENT and that they are sure they want to make that PERMANENT choice.

This is something many players do NOT want to see added.

I guess we're at an impasse, and so maybe it should be left as is, as BW designed and implemented it.
The thing is, Bioware stated they will likely put this in the game. Which is why I encouraged the Anti-AC change side to stop with the insults and start talking about terms.

You know, terms that are reasonable. That's why my terms are fine, since they provide the CC option, which bioware loves to do and limits the amount of times someone can change their AC. So that whole "OMG FOTM!" thing is pretty much shut down with my terms.

If you want to leave it at- "I disagree with an AC change." that's fine. I already said I'm willing to accept that.

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TridusSWTOR
07.27.2013 , 04:55 PM | #2416
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
The latest quote was 'likely happen". There was NO "very" or "highly" attached to that "likely", but go ahead and continue to misrepresent the devs' statements.

I also like how you conveniently ignore the fact that there has been NOTHING further from the devs, not even a whisper of a hint, about changing classes since that statement.
"likely happen"- Still proves me right. Oh damn that backfired on you didn't it?

Yes of course, we should receive daily updates on anything we ask for in the forums. Because we all know that they answer every post that is made.

This is all you have to fall back on?

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TridusSWTOR
07.27.2013 , 05:00 PM | #2417
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst View Post
Actually no.. That is not what I admitted.. I said nothing about having the same skills.
Quote:
The way the AC plays at level 10 is going to be the same at level 55..


Direct quote from you bud. Thanks for doing the work for me.

You have been debunked.

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Ratajack
07.27.2013 , 05:00 PM | #2418
Quote: Originally Posted by TridusSWTOR View Post
This MMO operates no different then any other MMO. You pick your class and play it. If you don't like it then you reroll. It is you that needs to do research. If you had done so then you wouldn't need to change your AC.
Thank you for acknowledging this. You just made the argument for not allowing class changes.

Those are YOUR words bolded in the quote, not someone else's, just in case you decide to backpedal.

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Ratajack
07.27.2013 , 05:04 PM | #2419
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
"Likely" means "probable," as in "50%+1."
But "likely" does not equal "very likely" or even "highly likely" as another poster wants us to believe when he misrepresents what the devs ACTUALLY said.

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branmakmuffin
07.27.2013 , 05:07 PM | #2420
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
But "likely" does not equal "very likely" or even "highly likely" as another poster wants us to believe when he misrepresents what the devs ACTUALLY said.
I'll buy that. Although per Mirriam-Webster, "likely" means "highly probable." Of course none of us knows what BWEA has in mind, regardless of what they said a while back or of what Mirriam-Webster says "likely" means.