ETA on Advanced Class change?

it is a new class... an assassin is not the same thing as a sorcerer. EVERYONE knows this.

It is a new class, the devs have said they are different classes, there is no argument you can mount that changes the FACT the devs have said they are fundamentally different classes.

Just because you leveled a ranged class (sorcerer) does not mean you earned the right to have a max level stealthing melee class (assassin) for no reason.

They are different class saying they are not different only make you look dumb. You go into general char on any fleet on any server and ask if an assassin and sorcerer are the same class you will not find anyone telling you they are the same thing.

I just cannot comprehend how anyone is so daft as to think that 2 polar opposite classes like that could possibly be the same thing.

as long as mirror AC count ( like they do for class buffs - which are shared by both AC's btw, further adding evidence of AC not being a separate class), then I can see it as possible compromise. not my favorite option for several reasons, but it IS a compromise that among other things, takes into account people who prefer not to replay the same story twice.

Yeah, everyone knows it.

wow that is a lame rationale right there...

You really think an assassin is the same thing as sorcerer then you simply do not belong.

Yea, I mean let me give an example of how this might work.

Lets say you have two characters....a Smuggler/Gunslinger, level 55 and a Smuggler/Scoundrel, level 15.

Note, the scoundrel level is just an arbitrary point...there is no limit on level as far as the change is concerned. Also, they can be on the same server, different servers, doesn't matter....

So, you have leveled a Smuggler up all the way to 55 in the Gunslinger AC. Your finished, and when you finish you unlock the ability to purchase a legacy Gunslinger unlock.

You pay for the unlock, and then you can log in your Scoundrel and change it's AC to a Gunslinger. You have a cooldown naturally...perhaps say one week.

I'm not sure if there should be limits on how many times you can switch....you can't switch back to Scoundrel though, until you level a Scoundrel to max level.

So there you are. That is how I think this option would work. A legacy unlock is an interesting idea IMO.

ah, so it would unlock gunslinger but NOT the sniper? in that case, I'll have to say pass. one of the reasons to allow for AC change is for people who don't enjoy repeating the story... not to repeat the story.

I like the general idea, just not implementation you are proposing, the way I understand it. even with my adjustment its still not something I would personally prefer.

(when I say mirror classes, I mean faction mirrors. they are not identical, but differences are mainly cosmetic, rather than mechanical)

in general though, the more I think about it, the more I have to agree with Vhaegrant. his views very much match mine. but like I said - I view class as base class. I don't view AC as a separate unique class. separate unique playstyle, yes, but so are the specs within any single AC. separate unique playstyles, with unique abilities, distinct rotations etc. which is why I honestly don't see the difference between spec switch and AC switch other than arbitrary - no you cannot do it. to me its on the same level as which species can play which class restriction. its there at first but it can be unlocked and then it doesn't matter anymore.

Well, it's not a lock...perhaps it could offer the faction mirror. That would be up to the folks discussing this here.

That was just my idea how it would work. You unlock the AC you earn, and from that point forward, inside that class you have the ability to change to that AC. Perhaps they could even have legacy levels that would shorten the cooldown time.

all he want is max level toons hes never played because he wants to skip the leveling process. Its not a matter of "picking the wrong AC" he was new classes without leveling them and nothing short of the option of "max level AC XXXX cartel coins" will suit him.

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Hizoka, I want you to be able to express your views here and discuss them. I think everyone's opinion is important as long as they follow the forum rules. But....

I thought I made it pretty clear that you and I will never have anything to discuss.

Never means not ever...not now, not soon....NOT EVER.

It would really be easier for you and I both if you can remember that fact. I am not quoting nor responding to your posts. If you wish to comment on something I have said, fine, but DO NOT QUOTE MY POST.

We have nothing to discuss. I really can't stress that enough.

my suggestion is to utilize ignore function. its not 100% effective since you can still see the posts by ignored people IF they are quoted by someone else, but it still helps.

and because there's only so much self control I have, I feel like I should post this as a reminder. I have 14 alts. I may end up rolling 2 more, I have plenty of character slots still left after all. among those 14 alts, I have all base classes covered and the only AC's that I don't have are commando (I do have mercenary though) and guardian (however my jugg is still my favorite to tank on, even if my vanguard sees more action). but I may end up getting them too. there are some interesting things in both class stories that happen to males that don't work out the same way with females that I might end up wanting to see for myself (my knight and trooper are both female). and I'm pretty happy with their AC choices in and out of character.

in other words? if AC change doesn't get implemented - I won't lose any sleep over it. if it DOES get implemented, I won't be utilizing it. I'm not supporting the idea for personal gain. so I would appreciate it if people would stop claiming as if I am. ok?