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ETA on Advanced Class change?

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Jeweledleah
06.23.2013 , 04:35 AM | #1811
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst View Post
So did you even read the post above or just decide to be a jerk?? Did you see the post where I said Noxxis said that DPS sages needed accuracy?? Dude.. All you are doing is making a fool of yourself..

Dude... I am treating you with civility and you aren't even reading my post.. There is no reason for you to be a jerk... Be hey.. Point taken.. You don't want to debate the issue.. Even though I did address you post point by point.. So instead of lying about me you were actually talking about yourself right?? Just going by the evidence here.. It is pretty stupid to accuse someone of ignoring you when the post before responds to you point by point..

As for logic?? Hmmmmm.. You should work on that..
I just scrolled back and i saw no such post. only your continued insistence that I was wrong.

and btw noxxic? is good as a starting point, but their specifics are flawed, and sometimes downright wrong. something I found out, when doing research (although, at least they seem to have removed some of the more odd of their recommendations... like the one when they used to list threat dump as survivability cooldown for tanks)

and your so called rebuttals to my points were merely rehashes of the same tired, sometimes even unrelated opinions that you keep trying to pass on as facts. including the accusations of laziness and all that jazz.

you are a sore loser. that's ok. most people have trouble admitting when they were wrong, you are not a special snowflake in that.

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MajikMyst
06.23.2013 , 04:39 AM | #1812
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeweledleah View Post
I just scrolled back and i saw no such post. only your continued insistence that I was wrong..
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst View Post
The OP claims that mobs have a chance to miss on force abilities?? Why does everywhere else say the exact opposite??

Why is it not reflected in the tool tip??

Your base force accuracy is already 100%..

Other than your link, nobody else has said that chance to hit on with force as decreased.. So I will trust other websites.. You think and believe what you want..

Here is a forum from Noxxic..

http://www.noxxic.com/t/accuracy-wit...ow-tank-builds

Again says no accuracy is needed for shadow tanks as of 2.2..

http://www.noxxic.com/swtor/pve/jedi...m-modification

Here is the builder with BiS list.. Again no accuracy..

I looked at all the specs for a Sage and a shadow.. Some specs they are saying you want accuracy.. But I don't know why?? One is for a Telekinetics spec'ed sage.. That is a ranged dps force only spec.. Yet for a shadow tank, which is at least partially mele it says no accuracy.. I am sticking with the no accuracy thing.. At least until it can be explained why..
Like I said.. Work on your reading skills.. As I am proving you wrong yet again..
Who is the more foolish? The fool or the fool that follows him?

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Jeweledleah
06.23.2013 , 04:41 AM | #1813
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst View Post
Like I said.. Work on your reading skills.. As I am proving you wrong yet again..
all you are proving is that you are at least capable of going back a few pages, editing a post, after i made mine and then claiming that i'm the one lacking reading comprehension. (not to mention I wasn't talking about tanks needing accuracy, I was talking about dps, and yet you keep bringing up tanks)

good job. you get a "you tried" gold star

but as amusing as it is, watching you continuously make a fool of yourself, I really do have better things to do with my time.

bye dearie

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MajikMyst
06.23.2013 , 04:43 AM | #1814
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeweledleah View Post
I just scrolled back and i saw no such post. only your continued insistence that I was wrong.

and btw noxxic? is good as a starting point, but their specifics are flawed, and sometimes downright wrong. something I found out, when doing research (although, at least they seem to have removed some of the more odd of their recommendations... like the one when they used to list threat dump as survivability cooldown for tanks)

and your so called rebuttals to my points were merely rehashes of the same tired, sometimes even unrelated opinions that you keep trying to pass on as facts. including the accusations of laziness and all that jazz.

you are a sore loser. that's ok. most people have trouble admitting when they were wrong, you are not a special snowflake in that.
I am not a sore anything.. I also didn't lose.. You accused me of ignoring you and totally spaced my large post to you addressing your every point.. Then you had trouble finding the post that I pasted above, which was on the same page as the one you found.. So either you reading is extremely poor or you have extreme narrow vision and only see what you want..

Even now.. I have done nothing to you and you are posting to me with hostility.. What does that say?? You want a sore loser?? Go look in the mirror.. Again.. Calling it how it is..
Who is the more foolish? The fool or the fool that follows him?

[.] Lost but never forgotten!! 12-01-2011 R.I.P.

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MajikMyst
06.23.2013 , 04:45 AM | #1815
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeweledleah View Post
all you are proving is that you are at least capable of going back a few pages, editing a post, after i made mine and then claiming that i'm the one lacking reading comprehension. (not to mention I wasn't talking about tanks needing accuracy, I was talking about dps, and yet you keep bringing up tanks)

good job. you get a "you tried" gold star

but as amusing as it is, watching you continuously make a fool of yourself, I really do have better things to do with my time.

bye dearie
So I prove you wrong and you are reduced to a post like this?? Typical.. Just typical.. You know reading would really help you in this situation.. Just saying.. Some free advice there..

I am sorry you aren't capable of reading my posts.. I really didn't edit that post.. It was all written when I did the research.. Kind of like how the post reads.. Again if you could read, you would have seen that.. I am sorry you can't see really long posts that I took a lit of time in writing to address you point by point.. Did you address my points made in the post I wrote?? As of yet?? No.. So maybe I should throw the tantrum about you not responding to me?? I'll pass.. At this point, I am doubtful you will even read and understand this post..

As for better things to do with your time?? I would consider showing people the same respect they show you.. I did respond to you, and I did do the research, and I did say that dps spec's are said to need accuracy... All you are doing is ranting about what you didn't read or didn't see.. Not to mention making yourself look foolish in the mean time..
Who is the more foolish? The fool or the fool that follows him?

[.] Lost but never forgotten!! 12-01-2011 R.I.P.

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Xeperi
06.23.2013 , 06:13 AM | #1816
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst View Post
You have seen me say there is no reason to allow AC swapping.. Well.. There isn't..
I think a good enough reason is that people want to. Though I do not want to see it happen in a way that totally unbalances the game, which is why to me, a compromise with penalties is in order.

I can see unlocking the ability to do an advanced class switch at level 55 or so. With a penalty. Putting them back to 10 might be a bit severe- maybe a 5 level penalty instead with a minimum level of 20. And a three month cooldown.

My mind is changing on this because as long as something doesn't disrupt game mechanics or make it "less hard", I see no reason to block something that a lot of people want to do.

I would rather see a brand new set of classes beyond advanced, that start at level 55+, and I would rather see more build diversity overall.

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LordArtemis
06.23.2013 , 08:20 AM | #1817
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeweledleah View Post
all you are proving is that you are at least capable of going back a few pages, editing a post, after i made mine and then claiming that i'm the one lacking reading comprehension. (not to mention I wasn't talking about tanks needing accuracy, I was talking about dps, and yet you keep bringing up tanks)

good job. you get a "you tried" gold star

but as amusing as it is, watching you continuously make a fool of yourself, I really do have better things to do with my time.

bye dearie
I read it too and saw that none existed. Everything below the "Other than your link, nobody else has said that chance to hit on with force as decreased.. So I will trust other websites.. You think and believe what you want.. " comment did not exist.

Like I said earlier, post history stands in evidence. He can't edit every post.

This is a person that gets proved wrong constantly and either ignores that proof or simply changes the original post when he realizes he is wrong so he can claim he was not or never said that.......even if you quoted the original quote.

Now, we all go back and edit, change posts after we have posted them. Sometimes we have more to say, other times it's to make corrections to the post. But he does that specifically to be dishonest.

Some folks are incapable of learning how to properly behave in society. This is one of those individuals.

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Aries_cz
06.23.2013 , 09:01 AM | #1818
Majyk, Sages need accuracy, at least after 2.0 and on levels 51+. All Elite and higher mobs level 51+ have 10% chance to resist any attack. So, to be sure that your attacks punch through it every time, you must have 110% on your Force attacks.
This has been documented by many theorycrafters based on parses and extensive testing, like here: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=627405
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TridusSWTOR
06.23.2013 , 09:39 AM | #1819
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst View Post
So then why don't sages need accuracy?? For that matter, Shadows which are mele also don't need accuracy.. Shadows are Assassins.. Which also don't need accuracy..

Perhaps you should look up dear??

Just an FYI.. I have a dedicated level 55 Shadow tank.. One of the biggest complaints that tanks of our class have in the gear is that a lot of it has accuracy that we don't need, and a lot of it has def, which we don't need much of.. We need a lot of shield and absorb.. Which is sadly absent from our gear.. I have had to use augments to get those stats..



http://mmo-mechanics.com/swtor/forum...d-950.html#IIa

Now.. Both Shadow and Assassins have some mele skills.. Some are pretty nice.. Having said that, I have only a little accuracy that has come on my gear.. Some of it I got rid of.. But I have never missed on a boss.. I have tanked SaV.. Again never missed.. I will agree that a little accuracy may not be a bad idea.. But I will gladly trade it for a tank stat.. I currently have about 2% or less on accuracy..
Shadow DPS and Sage DPS need accuracy now, how can you not know this?

Learn to accept certain truths from posters. More often than not, they can educate you more than you can provide anything meaningful to them.

You are a troll.

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TridusSWTOR
06.23.2013 , 09:47 AM | #1820
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst View Post
Thanks for that post.. I just wanted to know which one of is civil.. Now I know.. Please though.. Keep being a jerk and fist pounding.. You are good at it.. As for trolling?? Well.. I am the one responding to people and not being a jerk.. You on the other hand.. Well.. Nevermind.. You probably wouldn't understand anyways..

As for what I expect?? I expect you to act like an adult and not spoiled child.. I accused you of being bias and pro AC because the way you post and how rude you are to those that are against it says otherwise.. If you were truly neutral on this issue then you would be embracing both sides of this issue.. But you are not.. You are barely interested in the arguments against.. You never respond to them.. You don't even try to see the other side of the issue.. And now you are just resorting to being rude and obnoxious..

If you don't want to talk to me, that is fine.. But do us all a favor will you?? Grow up..
Take your own advice. Also stop stealing people's words, go make up your own.

Also you haven't done the anti-AC side any favors at ALL. At least lord Art actually provided a list of possible solutions we could pick from. Where is your contribution?