ETA on Advanced Class change?

Read the post people. I said that at one point BW said that ACs were there own classes, but that could change now that the cartel market hit.

You can try to weasel out all you want, but here is the quote again.

Notice, NOWHERE in that quote do the letters BW appear, let alone the phrase Bw said that they were their own classes. Nor did you say in that quote that " that could change now that the cartel market hit".

You very clearly said that "At one point they were" their own classes, a clear admission that AC's were their own class. The devs have not contradicted their earlier statement regarding AC's being fundamentally different classes, despite the ambiguous statement about AC changes likely happening at some undetermined point in the future.

You also stated that the cartel market changed Ac's being their own class. It did not, it has not, and I very seriously doubt that it will change AC's being their own class. They may offer class changes in the CM to make a quick buck at the cost of the subs of those that will leave this game if they allow class changes, but that will not change the fact that AC's are different classes.


I am not twisting your words, but I AM holding you to them.

Read the entire paragraph, its about BW and the CM. At the beginning I said that BW has said that ACs were there own classes but now that the CM is here that will probably change.

they never said that.... you are just trying to make it sound like you view is valid when it is not. They have NEVER said anything about classes in regard to the CM EVER.

As stated, will probably change.

Isn't it odd (and a bit amusing) how angry those two get over this issue?

They know this feature will probably be put in, they are just attention seekers and im a fool for giving them it.

so you admit you are simply making your view up as you go???

you claim that because of the CM they might add in pay to win changes like paying for max level classes???? Even though they have said multiple times they will not make the CM pay to win, which means skiping content and giving out high level gear for money.

I would agree but the person is still leveling the character they want to AC switch. I mean the leveling legwork is already complete, that's what doesn't make sense at all.

You are wrong.. Bioware has said it and just because you didn't read it or hear doesn't mean it didn't happen.. The beta forums and the original launch forums no longer exist.. The forums we have no were put a couple days after launch.. Pretty much right after early release was over and those people could no longer post to forum..

So seriously.. Your views around here don't dictate reality.. Your AC is your class.. That is fact.. Bioware said it.. Repeatedly.. Sorry you missed it..

Why don't you not worry about my views and start answering some of my questions..

Name a single reason as to why AC swapping would make the game better for all involved and will not cost Bioware money..

Explain to all of us why rolling a new character doesn't accomplish the same thing?? Do not use reasons that can be turned into being lazy.. No reasons that involve easier or more convenient..

No the real contention here is your desire to ignore what already has been said that a number of people in this thread have confirmed.. As well as confirmed in other threads.. The contention here is your desire for everyone to play your rules and live by your reality...

As I have said before.. Whether or not you feel an AC is a class is irrelevant.. It is of no consequence to the discussion of AC swapping.. As I said, people make that argument in attempt to devalue the AC and claim it isn't a class.. So they can at least not be seen asking for a class change.. You can debate about it all you want.. It doesn't change the reality here.. Your AC is your class.. Bioware has stated this repeatedly.. Which in itself is irrelevant.. The game is all we need.. What the game says is paramount to this issue.. That is all anyone needs to hear or read.. What the game says...

By the way.. Grats for knowing about the orange dot.. It was fixed in the build they put out on Dec. 1st, 2011.. Hence the date in my sig.. If you came just before or after that point.. Unless you searched for it, you may not have seen the quotes and statements by Bioware.. The issue over the AC happened in late to mid August to mid to late September.. Long before you got in the beta I am thinking.. As I said.. You would have had to search for it.. I don't think they reset the forums then.. They reset the forums at least 3 times in between builds.. Said they would be saved for future study.. I don't remember exactly when the last time they did was.. I know when we were able to keep our characters in the next build, the forums didn't change..