ETA on Advanced Class change?

Actually I think it would be unfair to you to continue arguing about this point. You have made your views of my opinion known, and posted me in the "for change" position. So be it. That is your right.

There is no point in you and I continuing this disagreement further, since we seem to be at a impasse and I would rather respect your opinion and leave it at that.

1.) Yes, it is rather stupid and fruitless. For 10+ pages its been back and forth. Everything that could be said has been said.

2.) AC Swap isn't unrealistic. Why?

• Devs have already said it is on the wall of crazy.
• Could be put on CM for a decent amount of money, making people spend $.
  • You can level 1-50 without spending a dime if you wanted to reroll.
• If done properly, I doubt many people would leave the game.

Yes, everything was said before the game was even launched.. Yet some people, many of the same people continue to bring this issue up, to either irritate everyone, irritate Bioware, have no clue how to use the search button, or simply some think they came up with an original idea.

Have you ever heard of a soft no?? It is called saying no without actually having to say it.. They have no intentions of ever putting AC swapping into the game.. But they will say anything except what I just said to avoid upsetting people.. So they will give these false answers like it is on the wall of crazy.. They are not saying no, but they aren't saying yes either..

If you want to find out where Bioware stands on the issue, then play the game.. Around level 10 when you pick up the quest to get your AC.. All you need to know is in the game..

As for who will leave and who won't?? I would advise you to not speculate and just speak for yourself.. It really shows how week your standing is when you are trying to predict what others might do if you get what you want..

Bioware does not want Class swapping.. You only have to look as far as the game for that.. Case closed..

Didnt know we were speaking with someone that is working for BW and EA on this game. Thank you for letting us know.

Then you are not reading my posts.. I have not said anything about how I feel about your views.. I am simply calling it how it is based on the reality of the situation.. It isn't an issue of my right.. My rights have nothing to do with it..

You are trying to manipulate reality in order to make your opinions valid.. All I am saying is that you can't do that.. I am forcing you to have a point of view that are within the confines of reality.. You can't make up your own rules and then expect others to debate on it..

I have offered no opinion... I have simply stated the facts as they are known to be..

The game does in fact make multiple warnings about choosing your AC and the fact that it is a one time or permanent choice..

Bioware has stated that they consider your AC to be your characters class..

There is nothing to discuss..

There is no debating my statement...

1.) I pay for my characters. Period. It's not a debate.
2.) What I do with my characters isn't your or anyone else's business. Again, not a debate. SOURCE: See 1

It is called reading what they put out.. Be it in the game, interviews, or forum posts.. All people need to do is pay attention to what is said.. From day 1, before launch even.. Bioware has said the same thing about this topic.. The game makes it abundantly clear.. Still.. People ignore all that and want to discuss it..

Bioware specifically said also, that they didn't want 1 character to be able to both heal and tank.. They purposely made the tank specs and healing specs in different classes.. Nobody seems to want to consider this either.

I don't work for Bioware.. I was in the beta for just over 6 months.. I was there for the debates and dual spec'ing, and when Bioware caved on that the debates about AC swapping started.. Bioware put their foot down and said it wouldn't happen.. Made dramatic changes to the game to insure people understood that it was a permanent choice.. They also made it very difficult to pick the wrong class.. Since that was a common claim.. Allowed us to see the talent trees before we chose our class.. There were a lot of changes.. What we have now is nothing like how it was in the beta.. Bioware spent a lot of time and effort taking care of our complaints so they wouldn't have to allow AC swapping.. People can't just claim they didn't know it would be a permanent choice.. The game tells you repeadedly.. There is no way to accidently pick the wrong one.. The buttons are not even close to each other.. I was there for all this.. Watched it happen.. Participated in the discussions..

Also.. My apologies for the

That was unintended.. Was supposed to be a

No you don't..

So again.. No you don't.. You own a license to play the game.. Nothing in the game is yours..

I guess respecting your opinion isn't enough. You require me to agree with you. I'll bite.

First, you are incapable of forcing me to do anything. To think otherwise is just plain naive and foolish. You have invented a reality and expect me to accept it. I do not accept assumptions and sketchy facts as rock solid evidence. You can state the same fallacies over and over again, they will remain just as much fantasy as they were the first time you presented them.

What I can do is discuss it since i do not wish to support the feature without thinking about it first, and lucky for me you have absolutely no effect on whether or not I can make up my own mind. I am perfectly capable of doing that myself without your attempted manipulation of facts to fit your opinion.

You have offered little but opinion. The ONLY completely factual thing you have stated is that right now AC choice is permanent. Everything else is complete conjecture. You do not speak for Bioware...and I'm pretty sure they are not looking for someone to speak for them. They are perfectly capable of doing that themselves, define what they say and mean...you would probably be the last person that would set the definitions of anything they say.

Again, to my knowledge the only factual thing you have said...which has nothing to do with the points you make.

No they HAVE NOT. This is fantasy. What they have said is at best unclear...it is in NO way a direct statement that ACs are a unique class, PERIOD. This is fantasy, pure and simple, invented to support a particular view.

I SEE THEM AS CLASSES. But of course that means nothing to you because the fact that I am willing to listen to reason threatens your narrow view on the matter.

You do not get to make that determination. At least not for me...and that pretty much goes for forever, just so you know.

Stop wasting your time. I am not a sheep. I will not buy into your fallacious views...do not mistake my graciousness for weakness.

It is not a debate for you. You do not determine whether or not it is a debate for others.