ETA on Advanced Class change?

You have been shown time and time again that the base class (trooper, in this case) only determines your story line. The game was designed in this manner to keep the development costs down. They would have had to double the development budget to create an additional 8 story lines, an additional 20 companions and their quest chains, the class trainers and class vendors for those additional 8 classes and the voice actors needed to voice the male and female versions of those additional 8 classes, their companions and any additional NPC's those classes would encounter in their travels. This would likely have substantially delayed the release of the game and could possibly have stopped it even before release.

Vanguard and commando start as troopers because it was cheaper for BW to have them start as troopers, not because they are the same class.

I await your next attempt to sidestep and find a reason to dismiss this as it does not support your desire to change your CLASS.

I'm still waiting for you to show me another class that has all of the above. Cant find one? Didnt think so, because were not asking to switch out of that, were simple asking to roll from one side of the bed to the other, not switch beds.

Using your analogy, the trooper has two twin beds in his quarters, not one king bed. One bed is for the commando who prefers a softer mattress and fights from range and one bed is for the vanguard who gets up close and dirty, fighting in melee range, and so prefers a firmer matress, so you are asking to change beds.

Guys, guys....the issue is not whether or not AC is a class. It seems some folks are stuck on that.

The issue is what kind of impact this change, if implemented would have on the game. It's not enough to simply say change is good, nor is it enough to say simply that it is wrong or against the design. It is also ridiculous to say folks want it simply because they are lazy.

There are positive and negative aspects to this proposed change, REAL ONES. We should be discussing those pros and cons and leave the drama at the door IMO.

"Folks?" It's the "against" crowd who keep throwing that out over and over as if that settles the debate, refusing to accept that "ACs are totally different classes" is itself highly debatable and also a matter of opinion. It's a common rhetorical technique to sweep aside argument on highly debatable premises by basing a conclusion on one or more of those highly debatable premises and stating "Well, those preliminary matters are settled." It reminds me of a particular U.S. president's press conference where the press secretary stated that the subject matter of a reporter's question had in effect been answered already by pointing out nothing more substantial than previous administration statements that the matter had been dealt with.

No argument there. The problem is that it boils down to is "I like it" vs. "I don't like it," yet those who don't like it seem bent on trying to justify their position with statements like "It can't be changed because AC choice is permanent," ignoring the fact that if AC swap were allowed, of course the choice would no longer be permanent. The anger on the "against" side is unfathomable.

You might have a point if he DEVS (you know, the ones who designed and created the game, who know the game better than any of us ever could) were not on record as stating that the AC's are DIFFERENT CLASSES.

It's not just a matter of those against allowing class changes making some unfounded claim that AC's are different classes. It's a matter of the devs themselves say they are different classes, and those against class changes simply have the devs on their side in that regard.

Of course, if they allowed players to change their class, then the PERMANENT decision made at about level 10 when a player chooses his class would o longer be permanent. Just because something can be changed does not mean it should be changed.

Right now that decision IS PERMANENT, and I have yet to see any real, valid, and irrefutable reason why the devs should change that.

because the only reason is childish want. Kids of today have no sense of accomplishment because they never EARN anything its all handed to them. They also think simply because they do something small that means they get everything. It goes back to little kid sports. They all get first place no matter what because they want them all to feel "special" regardless if they are eating dirt or scoring goals.

what does changing ACs have to do with little kids and sports?

wow dude it has been explained 10 times... You think just cause you showed up you get everything handed to you without earning it.

Just because you level 1 class does not mean you get the other classes already leveled up.

No matter how much you want it to be true commandos and vanguard are not the same class. The devs have defined them as different that is all there is to it. Just because you fail to admit you view is wrong it doesn't make it right.

Sorry you are not capable of understanding it but that is the fact of the game. Also in the amount of time you have been posting in this thread you could of leveled a commando and EARNED something rather then QQing that you do not want to earn it you want it handed to to you in a pay to win fashion.