Meta discussion on the PvP in the Gree Event

You've been whining all morning about getting ganked in the PvP areas. PvP gear would help against that. If you want creds go do Black Hole or East Ilum, the credit payouts are far greater for the amount of time you put in.

And again, you can easily max your weekly Gree rep by just doing the PvE quests.

Frankly, with the goals you have in mind (assuming you actually don't want WZ comms), the Gree PvP quests are just about the least efficient way to meet your goals if there are other players in the area. Especially if you are too proud to just switch to a lower populated instance and do your quests there.

About the money you are right, with the reputation, it's not just the limit. I want as much trophies as possible. You can use them after the event ended (next week) too. And i do not have alts to farm it as others, so i do the best i can with my toon.

But, with the instances you are not right. At the beginning of the week, often all 3 instances were blocked by groups of griefers. I know, because i was in all of them, looking for a pylon left alone.

Yesterday was much better.

So, because YOU want something, they should change something that other people like? Is that what this boils down to?

Ironic. You call PvPers "entitled" and yet, you're the one looking to do EVERY mission, even the PvP ones, without any fear of PvP. That is the very definition of "entitled" - you think you're special and should be treated special. Just because they're there, doesn't mean you don't have to abide by the rules to participate in them.

People use those lines because they've heard every argument you can make to tell people how vile they believe PvP is. In the end, it all amounts to whining because there's seldom any real truth to what they say. There are a-holes in PvE, RP and PvP, yet people like YOU judge an entire playstyle by the actions of another.

If you don't think it's whining, I'll give you one chance to change my mind with a valid argument about why PvP is bad....please, try...

Well, i do not care if the griefers and gankers lose their fun. As i said, i am not against pvp, they should just leave me alone, when i do not want to fight. They should look for someone who wants to. It would be more fun for them either.
And it's not just me.

But, they don't need to leave you alone.

If you don't want to fight, you have the option of not entering a PvP area.

You have NO RIGHT to say they cannot or should not attack you, solely because you don't want to be attacked. Sorry. Deal with it.

The blame for this circular discussion is not all on the shoulders of the PVP crowd: The PVPers keep repeating the same responses because the PVEers keep repeating the same crybaby whine.


I am not a PVPer myself, I never PVP*, but I am with them on this.



*Well, I did go into the Gree Event PVP zone yesterday to find pylon without a queue, but no actual PVPing occurred. But I certainly wouldn't have run off crying to my mum or the forum if it had. My God! PVP in a PVP zone! Outrageous! Somebody do something! Think of the children!

I don't see where's the difficulty understanding this.
First of all you are in a pvp server, there's an rp server just for the ones that don't like pvp, easy enough.
So the idea of being in a pvp server at least for me and it's pretty obviuous is that i can kill, which player of the oposing faction I wish, great for me gives great imersion I'm in wr with republc/empire I will kill every single sith/jedi I see in my line of sight I will try to get their bases etc...
Seconds the freaking quests is in a pvp area and this is not an invalid argument, take the time to think why in the world the heroicin pvp area is easier,...
You got it? That's right! So you can do with pvp gear wich per se gives much less damge than pve gear (reason why the pvp only guys are not alowed to op with you).
Third of all the quest gives you wz coms, all the others give you classic, if you don'tneed pvp ones don't do that quest, easy enough let's go further.
Tha quest s not pvp? How so? From what i saw everyone was arked as red, just like a wz, I have to charge pylons, just like a wz, and the pylon eve do damage to every single plyer that's not on my group. And you have a bolster.
Soooo pretty much pvpish like to me, btw funny story in ancient pylon or in hutball, if you get a draw both teams win, so why don't they just stand there and let the other people get the coms??? Because it's pvp just like here, the reason they don't wait is the same reason you don't let them do ops with you, they don't have to.
You don't have to carry a dead weight through an entire op that does insanely less damage and yet does litle dps/dhp/tps, the don't have to wait because they have gear pvp and that's why is there for.
Due to all this winning remember that bioware decreased the cd time of pyons and the number of pylon you had to get, inicialy there were four.
I don't have any petty of you, ecase first you have a bolster, you don't have to grind gear of pvp for wz due to stupid bolster, and you still complain, cause you have to fight alone, without your tank, guard and this-this-and-this-is going-to-happen tactic.
So sorry to say but stop winning, because if there is any people who're treated like hell are pvp'ers.
Expertise removed from elite war hero, everytime a new geararrives the other one that took month's of pvp wz is now for free, with only 5 wz to do and a stupd bolster to be put up to.

I do not see the "fun" in fighting someone that do not want or can fight back, but it just might be, that i am not sick in my mind, or just too mature for this...i do not know...

But if they don't kill you, they have to wait for respawns on the resources you expend during your questing. By comparison, if they do kill you, they get to access to these resources immediately. That's the nature of the PvP quests (and WZs, really) in this game. Instead of rewarding players on individual kills, the developers have opted to reward players on objectives that they complete while under duress from enemy players. This is why you are being ganked, not due to the sadistic impulses you are perceiving among PvP players.