Meta discussion on the PvP in the Gree Event

If it would be 10 minutes, there would be 10 groups instead of 1-3 waiting for it. You really want that? I think the respawn time is ok, since there usually is that 1-3 groups near the pylon, waiting. I'm always in for 4vs4 fights, but 4vs4vs4vs4vs4vs4vs4vs4vs4vs4 sounds a little too complicated to me.

Yes, it's a pvp quest similiar to pve quest, and that's what great in it. The difference is that in this quest, you can attack other people if you want to do the quest faster. It's not like someone couldn't handle the pressure of waiting for 30 seconds, it's "Hey, I could first have fun by dueling that guy and then activate the pylon" vs "well, let's sit here doing nothing and wait that those 2 groups to activate the pylon first".

I find it ridiculous when doing pvp quest, 3 groups should just sit in line and wait for their turn. They don't even do that in pve enviroment, it seems to be "who's able to click first"-race in there (especially in the Ilum heroic).

Yes, because that's how it was designed and the area where it's placed clearly makes it a pvp activity even if no enemy players are involved. Just by pvp being a possibility, it de facto becomes a pvp activity.

By your reasoning, pvp servers should not exists because it's just pve content with the pvp flag turned on.

Sorry again, you may debate whether it should or should not be like this but this doesn't change the fact that, right now, it is.

Pvp area and pvp flag means that if I feel like it, I WILL kill you. The quest is there just as an excuse to give me targets and opportunity to do just so. And like an EULA, by accepting the quest and entering the area you agree to the chance of being killed by me any time it strikes me to do that. Don't want that? There's plenty of pve content that gives you just the same stuff without the need to ever step into the pvp area.

Yes, that's why i am angry. But my point is, that BioWare put pve quests in pvp areas. They should have put true pvp quests there, that cant be finished alone, or without actual fighting. You know, pvp stuff? What pvp players want.

You see this absolutely right. And the pvp quests should be pvp ones too, and not just pve quest put in pvp areas, so pvp players can enjoy them more. I am no pvp player, so i dont know, but its hard for me to imagine, that a true pvp player finds those quests fun, because they are the same gather resources, kill npcs, scan objects pve quests, they can do everywhere else too.

Look! It's a pve-player telling pvp-players what they want.

Imo they should have encouraged pvp in Ilum pvp area even more, i.e. by putting medcenters a little closer to there. Then you could pvp and die as much as you want without having to worry about the teleport's cd.

i agree with you.

before the level increase most poorly geared players preferred to do the heroic quest in the pvp area as the mobs have less hit points. cant tell you how many groups i dropped after i get one and they then stated that is where they are going.

now all you have to do is duo with a 55 the heroics and it is rather easy.

something still needs to be done with the forced flagging though.

Ummmm.. That is the point of being flagged. Like I said before, personal responsibility. If you don't want to be attacked and killed by other players, don't go to the PvP flagged area. Simple and easy. But I guess that's too hard for people to understand.

You would have a point if it was required to complete those quest to complete the event. But since it is completely optional and not required, it is your own fault for the suffering you are choosing to endure.

You are right in that it's my fault that i go there. But, it's BioWares fault, their bad design, that i and other pve players want to go there. I am protesting against that. Not the pvp happening.

I don't consider it bad design. I'm a PvE player who wants to do it -- and I enjoy it, even if I get ganked once.

Going in a group -- since the start of the event this time, I've only died twice. Really a non-issue for me or anyone in my group.

Sure, it would be great if they made them actual PvP objectives. But, shouldn't PvPers then be complaining right now that the rest of the Gree event caters solely to PvE players?

In theory, we would be complaining about that, but the way the event is set up it seems pretty fair. A good mix of PvP and PvE content, and the PvP areas give you plenty of enemies to fight. I'm guessing most of the Gree event QQ is related to PvE players who wanted PvP gear from this (since the reward for these quests is WZ comms and they are only good for PvP gear), and for some reason thought they could get these WZ comms without doing PvP.

Well, i do not know about others, but i could not care less about WZ comms. I do it for the money, and the rep trophies. What would i want anyway with pvp armor? Pve armor is better for pve content, and i do not do pvp.