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I hate Vengeance Juggernauts


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AGSThomas
05.17.2013 , 12:29 PM | #1
Anyone else having a problem getting ROFFLEstomped by them? They have this stupid passive ability Unstoppable that lets them not be knocked back or controlled for 4 seconds every time they charge. In those 4 seconds they seem to be able to pour out enough damage to bring to half life or lower. I'm curious to see what other Commandos are doing to combat them.
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cashogy_reborn
05.17.2013 , 12:58 PM | #2
kite them for the 4s, and then knockback/stun
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AGSThomas
05.17.2013 , 01:24 PM | #3
Do you pop your defense cooldown during those 4 seconds. I find when I'm kiting they are still hitting me with their hardest hitting abilities. Force Scream, Throw Saber, etc.
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cashogy_reborn
05.17.2013 , 03:29 PM | #4
pop hold the line, strafe away from them. i dont usually pop my defensive cooldowns against a vengeance jugg; there are too many instances where you run into them and in the majority of situations you wont have your cooldowns. make ample use of kolto bomb in that situation too.

after 4s, if you want to fully disengage them hit them w/ stockstrike (root) and then immediately use conc charge. if you do it right you wont break the root, and you just bought yourself 3s of additional time to increase the gap. i do this when i want to run away from someone.
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Haggardbr
05.17.2013 , 03:32 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by cashogy_reborn View Post
kite them for the 4s, and then knockback/stun
Just let me add one thing here:

"kite them for the 4s, and then knockback/stun with electro net on them!"

There... they lose a bunch of HP and while you kite them with the net you can still do more damage.
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cashogy_reborn
05.17.2013 , 09:28 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Haggardbr View Post
Just let me add one thing here:

"kite them for the 4s, and then knockback/stun with electro net on them!"

There... they lose a bunch of HP and while you kite them with the net you can still do more damage.
imo you dont want to be wasting electronet on a DPSer. if you are totally alone and you need to win the fight (solo guarding perhaps, but commando should really be doing that anyways) then id say maybe use it.

you want electronet available for when youre bursting down a healer imo. stop that op from cloaking out/scampering away, or that sorc from using force run or force barrier.
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Lalainnia
05.18.2013 , 11:59 PM | #7
Can also cleanse the dots
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CJNJ
05.19.2013 , 12:46 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Lalainnia View Post
Can also cleanse the dots
It's the opener that OP having problem with. Best thing I can say is HtL and hope he doesn't push u after the cleanse is nice too, just gotta make sure u cleanse the not crappy dot

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Helig
05.19.2013 , 03:01 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by cashogy_reborn View Post
imo you dont want to be wasting electronet on a DPSer. if you are totally alone and you need to win the fight (solo guarding perhaps, but commando should really be doing that anyways) then id say maybe use it.

you want electronet available for when youre bursting down a healer imo. stop that op from cloaking out/scampering away, or that sorc from using force run or force barrier.
B-but random warzones are not about coordinated teamplay! They're about isolated skirmishes, ambushes and random duels! You aren't supposed to save up your strongest mechanics to help your "team"! You're supposed to use them to kill that Warrior that thinks you're easy prey!

P.S. Only being half-ironic, because I'm guilty of that myself when I'm running pug warzoens my Commando. PuG people just rarely capitalize on the E-net advantage, even when timed reasonably well, and I find myself using it to smack down that geared cocky guy who comes at me hoping for an easy kill.
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cashogy_reborn
05.19.2013 , 03:56 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Helig View Post
B-but random warzones are not about coordinated teamplay! They're about isolated skirmishes, ambushes and random duels! You aren't supposed to save up your strongest mechanics to help your "team"! You're supposed to use them to kill that Warrior that thinks you're easy prey!

P.S. Only being half-ironic, because I'm guilty of that myself when I'm running pug warzoens my Commando. PuG people just rarely capitalize on the E-net advantage, even when timed reasonably well, and I find myself using it to smack down that geared cocky guy who comes at me hoping for an easy kill.
i will use it in 1v1ish fights where someone just wont leave me alone. ive kited a warrior around for a solid 2 minutes before, all the while attacking his teammates. he never once thought to maybe attack the guy healing me. its like being a commando makes warriors/knights see red; they assume youre just an easy kill and will pursue it at the cost of all objectives.

the downside to this is that this is the same kind of player who will make it his sole mission in life to stalk you if you beat him 1v1. i hate those kind of players :|
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