PvP Community's Plans for Server Transfers

I have to agree that it's the game mechanics and not the players. How can you fault people for wanting to play with like minded friends who pvp? It's an MMO, people are gonna group together. Some MMO's, that we will leave nameless, have better matchmaking mechanics that try to put premades against premades. It's not perfect, and it doesn't happen all the time, but their systems are set up so that if you are grouped with a friend they try to find a match where there is another group of two, etc... Now, with SWTOR and their refusal to have cross server pvp (like all east coast servers play against one another) that won't work as it will take too long to find a match.

I get irritated when I play on the Imp side and run into GG and then play on the Pub side and run into another Premade and for some reason they are not finding each other in the que. So instead of having a good fight against another premade (which I'm sure they'd prefer) they just roll against PUG's.

Either way, it's the system.

Uhhh, isn't this exactly why many PVPers are wanting to transfer?

Like I said before, I had no intention of PVPing in SWTOR. PVP in most MMO's has sucked since the dawn of the genre compared to FPS's and RTS's. I suspect that many PVPers who find themselves on TEH are in exactly the same boat as I am: the PVP grabbed us, and by the time we realized it we were in too deep to want to re-roll. PVE for me murders my soul. My game time is also very limited. Re-rolling is simply not gonna happen. I struggling to even level my secondary character to 55. It's godawful.

In terms of getting to be better at PVP: it ain't rocket surgery. Look up class guides. Look up videos. Work your rotations out on a test dummy and parse the logs.

Also, if you click your skills ... don't. Keybind. There is no excuse not to.

If your numbers are exceptional, the guilds will seek you out.

I have to ask this, and will be sad if it's the case. You leaving us? T_T

I think you're right to a certain extent. However, the end result would still be the same. The conglomerate would still exist, because as I said before, players with this mindset will always follow the path of least resistance. Yeah, cross server would be nice. Would've been nice at launch, or even 6 months ago. Now, there's no point. Let the server transfers sort it out.

And Jerc, there's no sour grapes about it. The truth hurts. You can choose to accept it or not, but it's the truth regardless.

That's nice of you to say, Amistar. Thanks.

Honestly, I'm really torn. I adore TEH. I really do. The folks I've met are singularly fun to play with. I have been fortunate to have some really extraordinary players and people to group with on a daily basis. The people in my guild frankly rock. I love these effing people. Our wider circle of PVPers are a cool group. The JFFC was smokin last week with some top-level dueling by really talented players. And everyone was so polite, and encouraging. It's outrageous, really. I don't think many servers have this.

The rivalries have also been awesome, not to mention the great memories of the early days of TEH: The Code, Brethren, Wardens on the Pub side. Veritas, Forsaken, Dirt Dogs, Covenant Shadows, Jenari Ascendency. Folks like Tom, Wolfpaw, Acorn, Boxxy, Chouffe. All gone. Awesome times on Ilum back before they took it away.

I also agree with Ma'Groh: the talent on TEH is among the best in the game. We saw this when the PTS went mega-server. TEH members absolutely dominated a JFFC I held there wrecking highly rated and regarded players from all over the world. Go look at the class PVP records in the PVP forum. TEH is very well represented there. While we have some really top-quality players, the pool is small in comparison to PVP servers. That's the heart of the problem for the hardcore PVPers.

Being on a server that shares a common focus is very appealing. Getting ranked pops in the morning on the weekend would be incredibly sweet.

It will come down to how the transfers are implemented and who else wants to strike out on a different server. There are certain players I want to come with me, so a lot will be dependent on that. It is very likely that Hex and friends will be transferring. What I'd love to see is a pure transplantation of the TEH community onto a PVP server.

As for the "truth" Theron Fett is claiming to have, I don't know what he's talking about. Why would we want to move if we didn't want more competition? Isn't that the whole point of this thread?

^This. So much this. I leave for work at around 9pm on the weekdays.

I'm not willing to put up with the attitudes on a PvP server, nor leave friends I have made here on TEH, just for ranked.

Seriously... Not gonna lie, This **** is on my nerves now.. So im gonna lay my cards out.

I have personally tried on SEVERAL occasions to raise PVP awareness, have duel nights, run recruit gear only tournaments, push for a PVP Mentor program etc.. etc.. Events the Elite PVP people scoffed at and scorned me for.. NONE of you put an OUNCE of effort to even meet me half way..

Im the most community minded person on these forums, and if you think It its chest puffing... .go **** yourself... I don't do it for recognition or an "Im cool happy face" sticker to put on my wall.. I do it solely because I love people and interaction with other human beings.

So I hear the BS and QQ.. But Truth be told, I don't have a sliver of pitty for you.. This is my FIRST PC game.. I started playing this game with a standard HP keyboard and mouse clicking everything.. I also started on SOTE.. Getting facerolled by Squad Six night after night. I saw player after player get frustrated and rage quit.. Go on to play other games with other Pax people. But I stayed, Reading, watching, asking..

Let me tell you something about these PVP "******es" that everyone loves to QQ about.. They were the first people to respond and provide info when I dropped that Mentor Program thread.. There was A METRIC **** TON of highly valuable info there. I was even able to garnish a significant amount more through direct PM. Multiple individuals took time out of their own game time to answer my "nub ***" questions. I however tried to take my *** rapage as learning experiences. Slowly I started to improve and build relationships with the individuals and the community as a whole. I sincerely applied the knowledge these "Elite" players shared with me. Bought the "MMO mouse" and freaking learned how to use it, binding all my keys. Then match after match began understanding tactics and team dynamic.

SO IM SORRY if I don't see **** them same way you all do then..

Furthermore... Can you all not SEE WHATS HAPPENING HERE?!?!?!?!?!!
All this fighting and bickering,, the name calling and insults.. Its only perpetuating the state of affairs. The more this goes on, the more it only hardens resolve. ATM I would be beating my head through a plate glass window to even suggest a server event. However.. I gave my word to myself and the community that I would try and facilitate a better more cohesive PVP environment with every avenue at my disposal. Regardless of my guild tag, and I don't intend to fail. Wherever I land come transfers.

I just wanted to say that as a B-team player who sort of stands on the fringes of the PVP community, solo pugs a lot, and has observed the Elite PVP Guild vs everyone else divide for about a year now, I think that your entire post is 100% absolutely spot on. I'm disappointed that people have pretty much skipped over what you said, the same way Nadir's and Dashto's excellent earlier posts were ignored in favor of bickering. Then again, I think that at this point in the game resentments and attitudes are pretty much set in stone which is a real shame and pretty much proves your point.

Anyway, to those leaving, best of luck. Do the Ebon Hawk proud. And to those staying, I'll see you in the warzones.

Agreed.

I'm one of those fringe players as well. I excel on a good team, make an otherwise bad one actually competitive, and PUG most of my matches. However, I also think that the PvP community as a whole on TEH will be better and grow once the current crop of elites are gone. Hopefully those who rise to take their place have more sense about the overall health, community, and longevity of PvP on TEH.

Let me be frank - the situation on Pot5 (where I have a fully geared 55 marauder alt) and Bastion is hilarious. I would pit TEH's best PvPers against any of theirs any day of the week., and I exclude my guild in that measure by the way - What Pot5 has that Ebon Hawk lacks is 24 hour queues and more than 1 ranked team.

I've seen abject nubery on the "PvP" servers that puts Ebon Hawks' worst nubs to shame. I don't think anyone who has experienced this "high level play" would say otherwise.

Also, I've heard the sky is falling claim for months and the predictions of doom from many people for months now. It hasn't happened yet. Maybe we genuinely like each other? And contrary to popular belief, I know there are very good PvPers in guilds other than my own. I respect them quite a bit and consider myself on friendly terms with many of them.