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What is the point of my $15 a month?

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What is the point of my $15 a month?

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AlaricSevGirl
05.10.2013 , 08:04 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by xorcist View Post
There's a couple of reasons why $15 per month may not cover it. One is that there aren't enough people subscribing to cover for their expensive development costs. EA spent a lot of money putting this game out. Investors blah blah blah wanted to see returns. When subs went down they cuts costs all around including firing staff and went free to play.

Hence the greedy money grubbing leach of a Cartel Market to make up the difference of unavailable subscribers. They are getting the money from the rest of us and some from the free to players. I agree that Subscribers should not have to pay full price for anything in the Cartel Market regardless of Cartel coins per month. It is such a small amount that getting most things worthwhile would take too long to accumulate.

As for the bile infested gambling packs, they are no doubt, the largest source of their income and also one of the dirtiest underhanded attempts to leach as much from customers as humanly possible. Seriously disgusting display of American greed. There will always be a sucker somewhere who will hand over a dump truck full of money for those packs, and they know it.
American greed...let me guess, you're not American. Every corporation is greedy, no matter where in the world it is. Keep the American out of it or don't play an American game.
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05.10.2013 , 08:04 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by kanaughty View Post
I keep hearing about new features being added like a new race and a barbershop, but they are not included in my subscription? My $15 a month is paying for you to develop these new fun features, so they should be included. It really makes me feel ripped off because $15 a month is a lot more than $0 a month. The cartel market should purely be for things that you haven't been developing to add to the game. The cartel market should be for only free to play people to have to use. My $15 a month should include any new races because we are paying you to develop them. So I don't get why you are nickle and diming us when we are paying you $15 a month. I could understand if our subscription was $5 a month, but it is $15 and my $15 a month includes any new races and any simple barbershop features in World of Warcraft. Please consider that we as subscribers are paying you to develop all these new fun things. And if we have to pay extra for fun then why are we paying the big amount of $15 a month?
Agree with everything you said here. But I put a stop to the nickel and diming about 2 weeks ago.

It's time for me to find a game without a cash shop.
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05.10.2013 , 08:04 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by tanerb View Post
If the cartel market items are luxury etc why are developers wasting time to develop them when bugs from a year ago are still there? also people who say you get 500 coins probably did not check how expensive is the darn cartel market. your 500 is nothing, you cant even buy an armor set with it. our subscription is only buying us to play the game as is, nothing more. rest is all illusion.
with Security Key it is enough to get you Cathar or full recustomization (new stuff in 2.1, if you want something more, you either save the coins up like a real money, or you buy more.
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05.10.2013 , 08:06 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by tanerb View Post
yes but there is a certain budget covering dev salaries. And it looks like cartel market team is getting the lions's share of the budget paid from our subscriptions.
I HIGHLY doubt that.

CM items are a joke -- most are re-colors, or slight alterations on models that are already made. It would take a skilled graphics artist less than an hour to build multiple brand-new sets.

And, most graphics artists get paid much less than actual software developers.

Considering the massive profit the CM has brought over the last 3 months, I don't think anyone is worried about salaries for devs and such. I do think they need to expand the team as a whole -- but RotHC followed by 2.1 after 4 weeks followed by 2.2 after 4 weeks actually AFFIRMS the statement that they have separate teams working on CM vs actual content.

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05.10.2013 , 08:06 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Freedannad View Post
Does this make sense to anyone? Guess my first mistake is trying to make sense of someone complaining about paying $15 for hours of entertainment. Even if you only play one hour a month it is still a bargain to be entertained for one hour for the price of $15. Try to go to a bar, stripclub, Six Flags, or whatever you are into and try to only spend $15 and see how far you get. If you dont like it dont pay and shut up. If you want to play as a cat then save up your cartel coins and buy your access to your beloved Cat. Bottom line is that this game is a business, if it doesn't make enough money it will be gone, PERIOD.

We all liked the days that we paid 15 bucks and we got it all. The truth is Gamers are stupider now then they used to be and they think they are getting ripped off for playing a monthly fee so MMORPGs found a way to trick dummies into paying more by not calling it a monthly sub. This model is not going anywhere so we need to get used to it. The only game i know of that does not have this model is WOW and that is for obvious reasons. Regardless, if you dont want to buy that game fluff you dont have to. I personally ignore everything in the cartel market and use the coins to buy perks.
Wow has an in game store. Wow charges for subs. Wow charges for expansions.
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tanerb
05.10.2013 , 08:08 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Aries_cz View Post
with Security Key it is enough to get you Cathar or full recustomization (new stuff in 2.1, if you want something more, you either save the coins up like a real money, or you buy more.
is so then why am I paying 15 dollars per month? to play a game released 2 years ago and would probably be sold for 10 bucks at steam if it was a regular game by now?
I am totally fine with the cartel market but I can see the resources taken from other places like bug fixes, like awful customer service.

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AlaricSevGirl
05.10.2013 , 08:09 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by tanerb View Post
is so then why am I paying 15 dollars per month? to play a game released 2 years ago and would probably be sold for 10 bucks at steam if it was a regular game by now?
I am totally fine with the cartel market but I can see the resources taken from other places like bug fixes, like awful customer service.
Don't know...why are you paying 15 a month. Go F2P and see how long you last at that. I lasted about an hr.
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branmakmuffin
05.10.2013 , 08:09 AM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by tanerb View Post
is so then why am I paying 15 dollars per month? to play a game released 2 years ago and would probably be sold for 10 bucks at steam if it was a regular game by now?
Why? Because you choose to.

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Freedannad
05.10.2013 , 08:14 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by AlaricSevGirl View Post
Wow has an in game store. Wow charges for subs. Wow charges for expansions.
Correct, I meant wow does not have a free to play option. I should have been more clear about that, sorry.

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jason_ralph
05.10.2013 , 08:16 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by AlaricSevGirl View Post
Wow has an in game store. Wow charges for subs. Wow charges for expansions.
That's a bad example in my opinion. Having bought everything off of the Blizzard Store for in-game items in WoW (mini-pets and mounts), it goes to all of my characters, on my entire account (regardless of server). In 2.1, I have to pay for that.

Yes, WoW doesn't sale gear. Well, another F2P MMO (DCUO) does. Everything you buy on their cash shop (minus consumables), is account wide. Point is, others do it, and do it better.
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