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What is the point of my $15 a month?

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What is the point of my $15 a month?

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Laerian
05.12.2013 , 09:45 AM | #181
Quote: Originally Posted by astrobearx View Post
dont get me wrong , im not taking side on this argument,i started as f2p and subbing is a far more better deal to play this game, but that mentality is just stupid. especially the part where you told ppl to GO TO THE COMPETITION, i mean really did you seriously put thought into what you said.i seriously hope this wasnt what ppl was saying pre cartel market because you guys maybe are the ones that needs to take responsibility for the f2p transition and all the horrible crap that that ensue from it. jesus andryah, for a person that is well spoken on these forums, that line was unbelievably dumb and you are really earning that title people drop around here :biodrone.
Probably some users think the best way to support a game (not only here) is going this way, but certainly it doesn't. It creates a false feedback perception that everything is fine when it isn't. At least, not for everyone.
There's nothing wrong with people asking for more benefits and the less if they are paying a subscription.

What the next update is telling us?, the answer is: Look, you may subscribe, you may buy xpacks, but that is not enough. We need you, at some point, buying cartel coins.

So lets resume, I'm a subscriber but if I want to use the new features I will be limited, discounts and free CC included in the equaiton.

How long when a "new" feature will replace an old one to become a new CC sink, resurrection, quick travel for example?. I'm speculating of course.

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Athan-Won
05.12.2013 , 10:28 AM | #182
Quote: Originally Posted by Aries_cz View Post
And how would you propose to fix something without first learning where and how is it broken?
They knew it was broken from the PTS and they released it anyway.

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JediJonesJr
05.12.2013 , 11:34 AM | #183
25 cents of the 15$ goes to the save a starving Dev foundation where all failed devs go after layoffs from failed games.
Will Return After Lunch and lunch is never over.....

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branmakmuffin
05.12.2013 , 11:38 AM | #184
Quote: Originally Posted by Kubernetic View Post
This is all true. What I NEED is a PVP system that works and isn't broken. They are not satisfying this need.
That's a want, not a need, unless your post is sarcasm.

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I am entitled to a working PVP system. "We'll fix it when we can" is not sufficient.
You are entitled to play the game as delivered to you. You are also entitled to vote with you $ and stop subbing if you are dissatisfied.

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I used to be the same way. It's $15.... it's worth the price of 2 meals at a fast food joint. It's a no-brainer. Well, that was before the PVP system became so completely broken and horked up. The problem now is that I can get more enjoyment from a couple of mushroom and swiss burgers than I can from the game. And after having played this game non-stop since December 16th, 2011... that's somewhat heartbreaking to say. Oh well...
PvPer gonna QQ.


Quote: Originally Posted by astrobearx View Post
i started as f2p and subbing is a far more better deal to play this game, but that mentality is just stupid. especially the part where you told ppl to GO TO THE COMPETITION, i mean really did you seriously put thought into what you said.i seriously hope this wasnt what ppl was saying pre cartel market because you guys maybe are the ones that needs to take responsibility for the f2p transition and all the horrible crap that that ensue from it.
If people unsub from an MMO because other players say "Deal with it or move along," then they are truly weak-willed, spineless worms. Ergo, such suggestions have nothing to do with the game going F2P or its current state of "failure" (as some would have it).

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JediJonesJr
05.12.2013 , 11:44 AM | #185
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
That's a want, not a need, unless your post is sarcasm.


You are entitled to play the game as delivered to you. You are also entitled to vote with you $ and stop subbing if you are dissatisfied.


PvPer gonna QQ.

Stop telling people they have no rights to complain anyone who pays to have access does have this right just because you feel they don't.

we are not paying you for the service to play the game.
Will Return After Lunch and lunch is never over.....

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Andryah
05.12.2013 , 12:09 PM | #186
Quote: Originally Posted by astrobearx View Post
*please note, this wasnt a "i gonna tell you off on the forum* post. just a honest observation on how foolhardy the "love it or die" mentality is.
You misread my comment. It's OK.. that happens when people are not open to suggestions.

Let me TL;DR it for you:

suggestion, NOT a command - play what you love. If this is not IT... then find IT.. and play IT. It's not for me to decide what IT is for you. The alternative is to live in some level of misery and spread your misery all over the forums and pretending it will make a difference.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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branmakmuffin
05.12.2013 , 12:13 PM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by JediJonesJr View Post
Stop telling people they have no rights to complain anyone who pays to have access does have this right just because you feel they don't.
Find something meaning anything close to "You have no right to complain or vent on the forums" in my post.

Although none of us technically has a right (assuming we are operating under U.S. law) to use this web site at all.

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Andryah
05.12.2013 , 12:14 PM | #188
Quote: Originally Posted by JediJonesJr View Post
Stop telling people they have no rights to complain anyone who pays to have access does have this right just because you feel they don't.

we are not paying you for the service to play the game.
You have the right to complain. What does it gain you though.. to complain?

It's not like Bioware is going to stop everything they are doing and put their best 25 people on your complaint just so you stop complaining.

While some people complain just to vent.. others actually think complaining means the developers will drop everything and do what you complain about.

Some complain because they want validation to their complaints and want to gather a posse around a complaint.

Some people are just complainers.. about just about everything.

For some.. complaining makes it worse for themselves.. since they feed off their own complaints...the more they complain.. the madder they get and the more they hate the game.

TL;DR: complaining does not make the game better.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Vis-Tecum
05.12.2013 , 12:20 PM | #189
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post

spread your misery all over the forums and pretending it will make a difference.
this sums up the maturity of gamers very well
Just go riding right by me on the crest of the new wave

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KennethHoover
05.12.2013 , 12:37 PM | #190
This game is F2P. They are going to nickel and dime you every chance they get, even if you are a subscriber.

Being a subscriber gives you no specialized immunity from this, alas.

It's the nature of the beast. And it's not going to stop.
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