There is no good reasons why subscribers have to pay cartel coins in 2.1.

You recieve 500 cartel points at the end of the every month as a subscriber. You dont have to do customization 99 times a month. However if you need to do so and rich enough , you can buy more CPs so you would support this awesome game.It sounds great to me. Why you guys persist quirking about it ?

Are people illiterate? How many times do I have to point out that 'compimentary' coins once a month does not justify them charging us for a feature WE SHOULDN'T"T HAVE TO PAY FOR.

I've said this multiple times in this thread, it's about the *********** principle. Not the money. We're going to get constantly nickle and dimed because no matter how much some of us protest people are going to give EA their money, so they have no reason not to charge us for things we should get for free.

Of course, as you've been told, GW2 is also B2P and they charge for any appearance change. Yes, I know you can buy gems from other players with gold, but it's no different than what you can do with Cartel items here.

However they also don't give you any gems every month like you get here.

Guild Wars 2 does not have a barber shop [snip]

On a side note you don´t have to spend cartel coins anyway since next to everything on the cartel market can be traded with other Players for ingame credits.

GW2 doesn't have a sub but it's not free to play, it's $60 or the equivalent of 4 months sub for SWTOR.

I'm sure its been said multiple times in this thread, but you get 500+cc a month; so stop buying cartel packs and quit complaining.

for the last gosh darn time, this isn't so much about money as it is about principle. Just because they give us a monthly allowance like children doesn't mean they can nickle and dime everyone for everything, especially people who subscribe. They shouldn't charge subs for features that they should get access to int he first place.

So, we are supposed to use the 500cc we were spending on other things before for the barbershop now? And don't tell me I don't have to spend cc on the barbershop, because I don't have to craft, do space mission/FPs/WZs/OPs often either. I'm saving the cc I get for a Jedi robe with the hood down, and not some gamble pack that gives a pair of used underwear worn by Darth Obscurus.

This whole thing means the subs will get nothing new with the 2.1 update unless they pay up/lose what they were buying before. In another words, sub don't get anything over the f2p people. Unless of course, the f2p players are charged a lot more than 800cc for changing from red person with horns to blue person with red eyes (say 1200cc). Which no doubt will anger both sides, but hey, at least I get something for my $15 right?

Imagine this: Billy has 500 imaginary dollars to buy candy every month, and now someone come along, and start selling make up for 800 imaginary dollars. To acquire the make up, Billy would have to give up on his candy.


Damn, weight watchers in real life probably cost less than changing a virtual body in swtor.

I think you inadvertently nailed it.
The monthly stipend went from "have fun with those 500CC" to "stop buying cartel packs"...

If you can't see the loss of value there...