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rantboi
07.25.2017 , 11:11 PM | #9141
Quote: Originally Posted by Jagaimee View Post
If you were nearly dead, the healer was either not doing his job or was having a hard time with it. And if the healer wasn't moving for the kolto himself, then yeah - by all means, hit that kolto station like your life depends...on...it....oh wait, it did. Heck, if I was that healer, I'd be grateful for the help (since I know I tend to tunnel-vision and panic when healing someone or multiple someones low on health, often completely forgetting about the kolto tanks).

Wiping the group like that was just petty of the healer. :/
yeah, but some people think they are dying and run for the koltos when their hp goes below 80%

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AlrikFassbauer
07.26.2017 , 10:52 AM | #9142
Quote: Originally Posted by domenicowalden View Post
Him: You don't trust in me, you think i'm not doing a good work, you think you can heal better than me? die.:
This is what I'd call "elitist thinking".

Quote: Originally Posted by rantboi View Post
yeah, but some people think they are dying and run for the koltos when their hp goes below 80%
Soime people actually do that - when the group finder makes them a 4DD group ...
I had something similar I think 2 weeks ago ...
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aerockyul
07.26.2017 , 11:00 AM | #9143
Quote: Originally Posted by Jagaimee View Post
If you were nearly dead, the healer was either not doing his job or was having a hard time with it. And if the healer wasn't moving for the kolto himself, then yeah - by all means, hit that kolto station like your life depends...on...it....oh wait, it did. Heck, if I was that healer, I'd be grateful for the help (since I know I tend to tunnel-vision and panic when healing someone or multiple someones low on health, often completely forgetting about the kolto tanks).

Wiping the group like that was just petty of the healer. :/
Agree completely.

When I'm in a vet fp as a healer, I want the whole flashpoint to go by without deaths, since it will be over faster. I'd never intentionally make it longer just to prove a petty point. Not to mention unnecessary repair bills.

As always, communication is key. If you simply must be in charge of healing 100%, just let everyone know beforehand you're gonna be manning the koltos. The dps and tanks will be grateful.
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sharkbaitt
07.26.2017 , 12:41 PM | #9144
Running a Master Mode Manaan FP yesterday. First boss and the trash all goes pretty smoothly no real hiccups until we get to Ortuno. The tanks positioning was actually pretty decent i think he got caught in the puddles once on the attempts. Well the tank dies on the first pull and we end up wiping so we all run back to try again we all give the tank some positioning advice on where to start the fight to help with threat and positioning he takes the advice and implements but we wipe when the tank dies again. This time I realized our scoundrel healer was only using HoT's Emergency Medpack, and Kolto Cloud.

When I asked the healer why they were only using half of their healing abilities and never using their big single target heals the response was that those heals still wouldn't heal the tank for 80% of his health and were worthless in this situation. So when Kolto waves was on cooldown and no Upper Hand procs were up the healer literally just stood there doing nothing.

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JediAkemi
07.26.2017 , 02:23 PM | #9145
Quote: Originally Posted by sharkbaitt View Post
When I asked the healer why they were only using half of their healing abilities and never using their big single target heals the response was that those heals still wouldn't heal the tank for 80% of his health and were worthless in this situation. So when Kolto waves was on cooldown and no Upper Hand procs were up the healer literally just stood there doing nothing.
Guessing they were new at Scoundrel healing.

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Khaleijo
07.27.2017 , 02:51 AM | #9146
Quote: Originally Posted by sharkbaitt View Post
.... This time I realized our scoundrel healer was only using HoT's Emergency Medpack, and Kolto Cloud.

When I asked the healer why they were only using half of their healing abilities and never using their big single target heals the response was that those heals still wouldn't heal the tank for 80% of his health and were worthless in this situation. So when Kolto waves was on cooldown and no Upper Hand procs were up the healer literally just stood there doing nothing.
Reminds me of an assassin tank I met in Master Battle of Rishi yesterday, with me healing on an operative.
With two stealth classes we skipped most of the trash groups, the first and second boss weren't much of a problem either except of the tank taking some huge hits occasionally. Well I thought 'It's a PUG, no one died so what.'
Then the final boss, we wiped... often. First due to the DPS not attacking any adds but after that was explained, the tank just died several times.
A few times he just stood directly in the cross and I know the positioning there is really bad, with the game thinking you still stand there even though you are far away, but he also died when there was not aoe at all. Dropping from around 60-70% to death.
Had a look at his gear now, it was proper tanking gear a mix of mostly 248. Then I had a closer look at what he was doing...
He was atttacking with his lightsaber and as he had an occasional stack of harnessed darkness, there had to be a shock once in a while too. Looking at the boss debuffs, there was nothing to see to indicate he used wither or discharge at all and depredating volts he used just randomly. Dark ward/bulwark was sometimes up sometimes not. His def CDs he knew at least though to me the used seemed as randomly as the volts. Like deflection during the shield phase.
As a long time assassin tank myself, I just didn't know where to even start to explain to him what he did wrong.
I tried to /w him about the use of wither/discharge to aim for 3 harnessed darkness stacks and then using volts but got no answer and nothing changed.
Instead the tank announced the next try would be his last and due to a lucky combination of adds that were quickly killed by the DPS, with the tank getting no orbital hits and by chance just sprinting around just before the cross, a few heal crits at the right moment, we somehow managed to get through.
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merovejec
07.27.2017 , 02:59 AM | #9147
Quote: Originally Posted by Khaleijo View Post
As a long time assassin tank myself, I just didn't know where to even start to explain to him what he did wrong.
I tried to /w him about the use of wither/discharge to aim for 3 harnessed darkness stacks and then using volts but got no answer and nothing changed.
Instead the tank announced the next try would be his last and due to a lucky combination of adds that were quickly killed by the DPS, with the tank getting no orbital hits and by chance just sprinting around just before the cross, a few heal crits at the right moment, we somehow managed to get through.
heh yeah, explaining an Assasin Tank to a new person is a thing for the whole evening
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Torvai
07.27.2017 , 03:30 AM | #9148
Quote: Originally Posted by merovejec View Post
heh yeah, explaining an Assasin Tank to a new person is a thing for the whole evening
Depends on how much in depth you want to explain

Basic would be: Use shock, wither and ward on cooldown, discharage, volts and maul when they glow. If nothing of it can be used, use thrash or saber strike if low on force. Done.

And before someone comes in screaming at me: I know that ward on cooldown isn't optimal. Who cares? The difference between using the 8 absorb stack to it's fullest and refreshing ward on cooldown is marginally at best. And letting ward drop off trying to maximise absorb stack uptime is even worse. So there's that.

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Jevaruss
08.01.2017 , 02:42 AM | #9149
ToS GF, our guild run is a player short so we queue up and get a dps. We start Malaphar, dps stands there and does nothing the entire fight, but loots right on cue after boss is killed. Then the dps apparently afks as we clear the adds up to the walkers, start the fight without them and clear it. Again, loots right on cue after boss kill. Dps never says a word even after getting called out in Ops chat, we vote kick after that. We 7 man Underlurker and Revanite Commanders, then on trash pull before Revan, a replacement dps finally queues. It's a gunslinger whose single target rotation involves mostly spraying sweeping gunfire with a few orbitals. Never change, group finder.
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Paanu
08.01.2017 , 09:06 AM | #9150
We were on a Hammer Station yesterday where the fourth didn't even login to the FP until after we cleared the first boss and then managed to get themselves killed, twice, with all the trash cleared between the first and second boss. We finally had enough and vote kicked, then finished the FP with a companion.