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TheDuge
08.28.2013 , 08:25 AM | #781
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Wait something doesn't make sense. You queued as a dps, got a fast pop (I think I saw a pig and cow flying that time) and respecced to dps and threw on your dps gear? Are you sure that you didn't queue as healer (to get a faster pop) and then respecced to dps and threw on your dps gear?
Well I was in healer gear and healer spec, (from some SM ops I did before) about to start SX and I specifically wanted to dps on the next FP, so I queued for dps. I didn't imagine I would get a queue this fast, but I would've respecced anyway soon.

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Also since you kept running ahead of the tank, you are in the wrong here. Even though it is easy and you can solo kill many groups probably, you should let the tank set the pace as you are making his job harder. Especially if he asks you to.
Yes, I agree on this. But I didn't pull anything, I just ran ahead, but always waited for the tank. The real problem was really the utterly rude tone they had.

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Was this person a low level with low level gear? Or was he just a whiner? Even on my level 55s in 69-72 I give priority to lower geared/level people simply because I would like that same respect in return for my lower level/gear characters. If this was the case although you guys were technically right, it was an a**hole thing to do.
Yeah, if he was in low level gear I'd agree to do all the bosses and even bonus maybe. I forgot to mention it, I didn't inspect him, but his HP was over 22k. Which is a lot for a dps if we consider that this FP drops BH gear.

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Fiamma_Verde
08.29.2013 , 08:04 AM | #782
Quote: Originally Posted by sithBracer View Post
Wait something doesn't make sense. You queued as a dps, got a fast pop (I think I saw a pig and cow flying that time) and respecced to dps and threw on your dps gear? Are you sure that you didn't queue as healer (to get a faster pop) and then respecced to dps and threw on your dps gear?

Also since you kept running ahead of the tank, you are in the wrong here. Even though it is easy and you can solo kill many groups probably, you should let the tank set the pace as you are making his job harder. Especially if he asks you to.
It does happen. The other night I was fooling around in concealment spec for the first time and decided to que for a FP. I qued as both a DPS and a healer thinking that it might be fun to DPS but not really wanting to since I'm sure I was all over the place in terms of attacks and rotation-- but I figured the que would pop with me healing. I was wrong. Instant pop and I was designated DPS. The guild I was running with was really nice though and didn't say anything about my derpy play, but I did come clean about not really knowing how to DPS.

As for the run that the other guy mentioned. He didn't say anything about pulling before the tank, just that he was skipping stuff faster. Personally I like to stick with the group since it's easy to wipe during an accidental pull when everyone is separated but diva tanks need to calm down too!

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Kingsbount
08.29.2013 , 08:31 AM | #783
For sure, if teammates know FP and just run ahead WITHOUT aggro everything before tank - no problem here.
But if DPS (marauder usually) runs ahead of tank and actually pretend as a tank - this can be a huge pain in the... neck (shut up, Vette!!).

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oaceen
08.29.2013 , 08:51 AM | #784
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My favourite PUG was an Assassin tank, who aggrod both of the turrets before Mando Raiders last boss, and hide behind the ledge, next to the entrance to the last room.

I just typed him "It's okay, you can come out now" xD

Hes reason was that "he always dies there".
lol, this is pretty funny.

it reminds me of one time i queued my tank for random HM and got mando (because that's only damn thing that pops)
anyway, so i could tell it was already in progress. they inform me as i make my way down that the tank just ragequit on them because he couldn't handle the last boss.
what they didn't mention by the time i had gotten to this point, is that they had apparently just given up on trying to kill the bonus boss, who was sitting there waiting for me as i walked right into his aggro range.

i quickly grabbed him and backed into a corner as the rest of the group came in the room, screaming 'no no no!'
because they all wanted to just skip him and said they couldn't do it.

i guess the other tank they had made it extremely difficult for them (i imagine he did not taunt when the guy dropped aggro and ran off towards someone else in the raid), but we one-shot him then one-shot the final boss.

i think everyone was really surprised that it wasn't nearly as hard as they thought
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PETD
08.31.2013 , 02:21 AM | #785
Boy, do I have the worst luck today. The two groups I was in, was not able to finish the FP Hammer Station.

My first team was unable to finish FP because one of our group members got disconnected. Then we waited for that member to reconnect at least 15 mins. I told them why don't we vote him out and get a new member since he is not gonna reconnect. One of the members go on about how they wait for the other guild member for at least 15-20 mins. Then I got disconnected and guess what. When I reconnected the person who lectured about waiting for the other member, left.

The second team I had had a lvl 15 smuggler was cced the target which later got him killed. When I and another told him, you are too low level to cc the target without getting killed. Don't do that. Guess what he say, I have 4 lvl 50 plus characters, KID! I was in a bad mood at the time so I didn't appreciate him lecturing me as I had lvl 55 characters as well and know what I was doing. I told the team him in particular that good luck finding another healer, I am not going to take the nonsense from that person. So I left, he claimed I quit rage and kept taunting as I left the group as the group was wiped while the timer on leaving a GF group was on. I ignore that fellow and apologies to the reminding members to the members for exiting of FP through PM. Yeah, I should have voted him off but was not thinking at the time. But thank goodness for Ignore, I just can't stand someone who doesn't take advice and acts like an idiot in the game due to his level and his so-called experience. There is no need to boast or anything as there are players more experience than he is. Furthermore if he has 4 lvl 50 characters shouldn't he know that he would get wiped.

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AshlaBoga
08.31.2013 , 12:47 PM | #786
Quote: Originally Posted by Kingsbount View Post
For sure, if teammates know FP and just run ahead WITHOUT aggro everything before tank - no problem here.
But if DPS (marauder usually) runs ahead of tank and actually pretend as a tank - this can be a huge pain in the... neck (shut up, Vette!!).
Ja, it's usually the Mara's who seem to enjoy committing suicide.
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chuixupu
08.31.2013 , 01:26 PM | #787
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The second team I had had a lvl 15 smuggler was cced the target which later got him killed. When I and another told him, you are too low level to cc the target without getting killed. Don't do that.
Huh? There is no reason why someone would be too low to get killed after they CC a mob...other than the tank not picking the CC back up if it breaks (mobs always automatically go after the person that CC'd them first).
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sithBracer
08.31.2013 , 05:08 PM | #788
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Huh? There is no reason why someone would be too low to get killed after they CC a mob...other than the tank not picking the CC back up if it breaks (mobs always automatically go after the person that CC'd them first).
My guess is the tank didn't attack until after he CCed, so the CCer took all the aggro and the tank probably didn't have AOE taunt if he was partnered with a level 15. Tanks are supposed to jump and take aggro while he is casting, unless he just started casting without mentioning anything.

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PETD
08.31.2013 , 06:07 PM | #789
Quote: Originally Posted by chuixupu View Post
Huh? There is no reason why someone would be too low to get killed after they CC a mob...other than the tank not picking the CC back up if it breaks (mobs always automatically go after the person that CC'd them first).
It was the starting of the HS, the tank did not start the attack and but the lvl 15 CC started CC. That was nearly in every HS I did which was quite strange I find. When he died he cursed like everyone else. But when we told him not to do that mainly because of his lvl and also he was the first to died. I think his gear was bad as well, his health drops really fast. I could not keep up with the damage he was taking.

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My guess is the tank didn't attack until after he CCed, so the CCer took all the aggro and the tank probably didn't have AOE taunt if he was partnered with a level 15. Tanks are supposed to jump and take aggro while he is casting, unless he just started casting without mentioning anything.
Yes you are right, the tank didn't attack until after he CCed, he only took of one from him. He died really quickly I only remember him informing us about the CC during the CC was casted. But nearly all FP, I did the Tank always jumped after the CC is casted. So it was a strange but common strategy I seen while I play.

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sithBracer
08.31.2013 , 07:37 PM | #790
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Yes you are right, the tank didn't attack until after he CCed, he only took of one from him. He died really quickly I only remember him informing us about the CC during the CC was casted. But nearly all FP, I did the Tank always jumped after the CC is casted. So it was a strange but common strategy I seen while I play.
Tank needs to always attack first or all the aggro goes to the attacker making it harder for the tank to take aggro back (or forcing him to waste an AoE taunt when he should be saving it for an emergency as he will next to 0 aggro points for all that he taunted). In this case the tank did not have AoE taunt so he would naturally not be able to take so many guys away at once. He could have used an AoE attack but if he was a jugg it would be hard to hit them with smash since most of the enemies on hammer station are spread far apart.

100% tank fail. Inform your tank that he needs to attack before the cast is done next time.