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Renata_Roselli
08.08.2013 , 10:54 AM | #691
I qued up for one of the new HM Czerka Flashpoints and we had a DPS Sorc in the group who only used Force Lightning throughout the entire Flashpoint. The boss fights took forever. I mean seriously. If you do not know how to do your class/spec's rotation than don't play the game.
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RaunchyRancor
08.08.2013 , 01:16 PM | #692
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeweledleah View Post
I don't think your issue was the durability.

I think the issue was that the tank was gearing for endurance, all the while neglecting mitigation.

believe it or not, a tank at 30k health but with good mitigation is easier to heal then tank at 35k with not as good mitigation.
I dunno, my own guardian tank has a mixture of elite and basic gear - nothing as great as what this guy had - but I've fared much better in Athiss 55 HM. The other thing is..believe it or not - he did not have a shield, i.e. the slot was empty!!
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Jeweledleah
08.08.2013 , 01:51 PM | #693
Quote: Originally Posted by RaunchyRancor View Post
I dunno, my own guardian tank has a mixture of elite and basic gear - nothing as great as what this guy had - but I've fared much better in Athiss 55 HM. The other thing is..believe it or not - he did not have a shield, i.e. the slot was empty!!
kinda what I meant.

its not the level of the gear, its the stat distribution. hell - a lot of the 66 mods (mainly enhancements) are better than elite gear, because they have mitigation rather than alacrity /gags

and the fact that he didn't have a shield? kinda brings my point home. that's 5% less shield chance and 20% less damage reduction when that shield DOES activate. its a LOT.

which is why a tank with 30k endurance can be easier to heal, by FAR than tank with 35k

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MishraArtificer
08.08.2013 , 01:54 PM | #694
Quote: Originally Posted by RaunchyRancor View Post
I dunno, my own guardian tank has a mixture of elite and basic gear - nothing as great as what this guy had - but I've fared much better in Athiss 55 HM. The other thing is..believe it or not - he did not have a shield, i.e. the slot was empty!!
Are you sure that wasn't just a UI display bug? I still get a bug sometimes where, depending on which character I'm on, other people's offhand slots are blank. (Example: I'll be on my Vanguard, and I'll go to inspect a Gunslinger. The offhand, for whatever reason, shows up saying the slot is for a Shotgun, and leaves the space blank.)
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PedramIV
08.08.2013 , 04:51 PM | #695
Quote: Originally Posted by RaunchyRancor View Post
The other thing is..believe it or not - he did not have a shield, i.e. the slot was empty!!
It's a UI bug, it happens to me most of the times which I can't see other characters offhand.

In Hammer Station HM someone told me "you don't have a shield?" and i said "I do" and linked it on chat

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Reallynotaknight
08.08.2013 , 05:11 PM | #696
Quote: Originally Posted by PedramIV View Post
It's a UI bug, it happens to me most of the times which I can't see other characters offhand.

In Hammer Station HM someone told me "you don't have a shield?" and i said "I do" and linked it on chat
Had a tank do the same thing on athiss when I was on my sage healing. He linked the shield in chat and told me about the bug, I had no idea.

I only inspected the tanks gear because we just had a shadow who after the first boss fight took a good option and wasn't able to equip his dark 2 required light saber. The vote to kick failed so I had to drop that group. He was really surprised that we would try to kick a tank, even one that was punching things.

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MishraArtificer
08.08.2013 , 07:55 PM | #697
Quote: Originally Posted by Reallynotaknight View Post
Had a tank do the same thing on athiss when I was on my sage healing. He linked the shield in chat and told me about the bug, I had no idea.

I only inspected the tanks gear because we just had a shadow who after the first boss fight took a good option and wasn't able to equip his dark 2 required light saber. The vote to kick failed so I had to drop that group. He was really surprised that we would try to kick a tank, even one that was punching things.
Yeah, I had to figure out that bug the hard way, too.

And add that anecdote to the list of reasons why wearing alignment-restricted gear is a terrible idea. Never get rid of that custom weapon you get in the advanced class box.
Quote: Originally Posted by CosmicKat View Post
Twiki (with or without Dr. Theopolis), Muffet, and Wesley Crusher could form a boy band and do a Buck Rogers/BSG/Trek crossover tour, then crash on a remote asteroid, meet up with Doctoor Zee, and save themselves by making a spaceship out of random Cylon debris... and it would still be much less stupid than Jar Jar.
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oaceen
08.08.2013 , 09:04 PM | #698
Quote: Originally Posted by EFSoupy View Post
So my question though is where you actually got that to work? I'm running 1-2 HMs a day and the healer/tank placement has always been tricky for us as we haven't been able to find a spot where the healer can actually be outside the 25m from the boss but still within 30 of the tank.
sorry, i misunderstood.

from the console that activates him, you can look to the left and see the tall columns against the wall.
there's a little alcove cut out, and it's possible to back up into that little corner as the tank. normally, you would LoS things, but your head sticks out the top.

go up the ramp to the crates that are sitting up there, and place the ranged/healers.
there will be some movement required sometimes as the boss can swing around at times, but positioned correctly, the tank is between the boss and the healer, allowing the healer to stay 30m away and out of the AOE
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xBenouze
08.09.2013 , 06:15 AM | #699
as operative healer i ask everybody to go in that alcove and stick to the tank and me, and i put 2 kolto probe on everybody and nanotech (aoe heal) before each jumps of the boss. none of the group goes below 75% life. (i'm in 69/72 gear pretty well optimized, so it s not so hard as for a 66 geared ofc).

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EFSoupy
08.09.2013 , 08:52 AM | #700
Quote: Originally Posted by oaceen View Post
sorry, i misunderstood.

from the console that activates him, you can look to the left and see the tall columns against the wall.
there's a little alcove cut out, and it's possible to back up into that little corner as the tank. normally, you would LoS things, but your head sticks out the top.

go up the ramp to the crates that are sitting up there, and place the ranged/healers.
there will be some movement required sometimes as the boss can swing around at times, but positioned correctly, the tank is between the boss and the healer, allowing the healer to stay 30m away and out of the AOE
I will be trying this next time I'm in there. Are the any body type requirements? Is a body type 1 too short to see to heal? Just kind of curious, and will be making some guildies a bit happier.
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